While I agree that unilaterally taking a decision to ban a user is not
right, I think that any acceptable use policy would still have been
violated by Cavin, not once, not twice but several times over since he
joined the list. So if we are talking about a policy that cautions
users and then takes appropriate action after a while it would come to
the same thing - Cavin would have been banned by now!
As to the idea that we should ignore him, it boils down to the same
thing, except that one does not have to even read emails from him. If
he wants to keep up with whats going in on the lug there are public
archives of the mailing list. Whenever he decides that he wants to have
debates without resorting to below the belt attacks on personalities
rather than sticking to the issues, then he can be reinstated.
And if banning happens by consensus but I vote to ban him.
On 26/01/2011 15:37, Daniel Bwente wrote:
Paul,
The Gospel you preach is true, but I beg to differ. Personal attacks and
racist innuendo the kind Cavin spews should not be tolerated because
"Everybody knows he is intellectually challenged", It encourages him to
continue posting. Opening, reading then ignoring his emails is too much
work, considering the potential pitfalls of creating a "Delete * where
name = Cavin" rule.
I suggest he is left on the forum for all Kids to see growing tall and
breaking your voice doesn't mean your an adult, albeit a time out for
him would be ideal, though seeing as he is generating new email handles
and spamming us, a more draconian approach should suffice.
Cheers
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
But that's precisely the point. You know EXACTLY how Cavin will
react. And yet you rise. Why? Just ignore him says I. In the years
that LUG existed, before you joined, I do not recall anyone being
banned. Or threatened with a ban. I almost feel like reaching for
that biblical phrase*.
The negative influences are a) provoking the man when you know what
he is like and b) Rising when he acts true to character. Ignore him.
You ignore posts that you find uninformative/unimportant, why not his?
P.
* Exodus 2:14
On Jan 26, 2011, at 16:57, Kyle Spencer wrote:
> While I admit that my actions were impulsive and may not have
been the
> best way to handle the situation, I'm sick and tired of watching
Cavin
> cluster-bomb this forum with personal attacks and insults.
>
> So, maybe it wasn't right of me to take unilateral action and ban
him, but
> now that it's happened I think we should use this opportunity to
have a
> serious discussion about how this community wants to protect
itself from
> negative influences going forward.
>
>
> On Wed, January 26, 2011 4:13 pm, Reinier Battenberg wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I think that kyle's decision is disputable, it not should be one
members
>> decision to ban a user, it should be our decision as a community
to not
>> accept
>> someone's contributions, and let's hope it doesnt happen for a
long time.
>>
>> Which means that if you disagree to ban a member, please express
your
>> concerns. There are some very valid arguments to be made to not
have this
>> happen.
>>
>>
>> However, personally, in this case, i fully support cavin's removal.
>>
>> --
>> rgds,
>>
>> Reinier Battenberg
>> Director
>> Mountbatten Ltd.
>> +256 758 801 749 <tel:+256758801749>
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday 26 January 2011 15:59:26 David Ziggy Lubowa wrote:
>>> I just can't help it but this has been agreeably diverting!!!!!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Paul Bagyenda
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
>>>> Eh banange! Must we get distracted to this level? Realignment
anyone?
>>>> Please?
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:31, Kyle Spencer wrote:
>>>>> ----- Original message -----
>>>>> From [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent Wed Jan 26 2011 11:23:10 AM EAT
>>>>> To [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject LUG unsubscribe notification
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>> Kyle,
>>>>>> please dont copy me on your useless emails,
>>>>>> simply send an email to the list,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Time to create a delete filter from useless spammers'
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