Artificial scarcity (i.e. data-caps) is generally introduced by customer-facing networks, not upstream/transit providers.
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:06 PM, <[email protected]>wrote: > I think for ADSL dedicated on the local loop, caps can only be due to the > international carrier charges. (Do you happen to know how much > international carriers charge these ISPs?) > > Quoting Kyle Spencer <[email protected]>: > > +1 >> >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Kizito Thomas <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> ** >>> >>> The biggest problem is data caps and not data rates! >>> -- >>> ..............................**..............................**...... >>> Seat of Wisdom ..........................Pray for us >>> Cause of our Joy...........................**Pray for us >>> ..............................**..............................**....... >>> Mayengo Tom Kizito >>> +256-752-602550 >>> +256-782-062708 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> *From*: >>> kawalyadavis@donald-it-**solutions.com<[email protected]> >>> *Reply-to*: Uganda Linux User Group <[email protected]> >>> *To*: Uganda Linux User Group <[email protected]<Uganda%** >>> 20Linux%20User%20Group%20%**[email protected]<uganda%2520linux%2520user%2520group%2520%[email protected]> >>> %3e>>, >>> Benjamin Tayehanpour <[email protected]<B** >>> enjamin%20Tayehanpour%20%**[email protected]<benjamin%2520tayehanpour%2520%[email protected]> >>> %**3e> >>> > >>> *Subject*: Re: [LUG] GNU/Linux ISOs >>> *Date*: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 03:21:55 -0500 >>> >>> >>> :)Where exactly is the bottleneck? Where did you experience this from, >>> i mean the location? (Those are typical questions from service >>> providers) >>> >>> But, I suppose even if the ADSL local loop is copper, it should >>> achieve up to 8Mbps downlink, then you will be switched onto a T1, or >>> T2, or T3, or at T4 ye probably switched to the Uganda Border Exit >>> gateway, then to the Kenya Exit gateway, unto the Africa exit gateway, >>> unto Europe entrance gateway, then unto some university mirrors in >>> Europe to get the distros. >>> >>> As far as i have been reading, the exit gateway interconnection should >>> now be fiber; so why couldn't you download your distros fast enough? >>> >>> For the broadband mobile, probably i can understand, coz the base >>> stations may not be interconnected by fibre, the error rate is great, >>> and any overhead enabling encryption on the access modems renders the >>> system slow...... >>> >>> Quoting Benjamin Tayehanpour <[email protected]>: >>> >>> > Having downloaded two ISOs over a Ugandan ADSL connection, I am now >>> > thoroughly humbled. It would take less time to walk/drive over to a >>> > friend's house and copy his or her downloaded ISO! >>> > >>> > Which, in fact, brings me to my point. I have a few distribution ISOs >>> on my >>> > laptop in case anyone would save some time and bandwidth. I usually >>> sit in >>> > WOUGNETs office during office hours (GPS: 0.34382,32.59247 Google Maps: >>> > http://goo.gl/LWcML), so feel free to come and leech some data! 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