Yes, democracy is far from perfect. It has many drawbacks – one of them being that many people who vote does not vote because they find the party politically sound, but because the family has voted on the same party for decades. One could also say that democracy is flawed in the same way public opinion is. Some politicians sometimes do things which are not popular, such as raising taxes, because there is an honest need for it, and that makes them unpopular. Meanwhile, other politicians do things which are not apparent for the general idiot on the street, but which a politically interested minority recognises as detrimental to the nation.
Democracy is far from perfect. But it is the least evil way to rule a nation. On 12 May 2012 17:06, David M. Gullever <[email protected]> wrote: > Quite – or as Lincoln put it (Gettysburg Address 1872) "government of the > people, by the people, and for the people" - which unfortunately doesn't > guarantee good government because ill informed votes make poor choices when > electing their parliamentarians > > DMG > > ________________________________________ > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of > Benjamin Tayehanpour > Sent: 12 May 2012 15:52 > To: Uganda Linux User Group > Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: UG SUSE Mobile Command Center > > Also: Yes, some parents keep secrets from their children. But the > government > is not my parent, and I am not a child. A family is not a legislated > democracy, but a country is. (Well, most of them.) And as such, the > individual has every right to some insight into the workings of the > government. After all, he/she pays taxes, and the taxes pay the > politicians' > salaries. In effect, he/she is the government's employer. Tell me one > workplace where the employer has no right to now what the employees are up > to! > On 12 May 2012 15:47, Benjamin Tayehanpour <[email protected]> > wrote: > Your world, perhaps, but not mine. In Sweden we have something called > offentlighetsprincipen. It basically means you as a citizen are allowed to > request court transcripts for almost any case; blueprints for almost any > building; information pertaining to individual citizens (including > politicians and government officials) such as full name, address, date of > birth, reported income and tax return, social ID number, passport photo, > and > a lot more information; police reports; military rosters; government office > records; basically any record kept by any government organisation not > considered especially sensitive. And the Swedish government has no right to > require or even to ask you why you would want that information. And > apparently it works quite well, since we're fourth on the list of least > corrupt countries. (Corruption Perception Index, 2011.) > > So, pardon me, but if anyone is naïve here it's not me. > > By the way, you could draw parallels with open source development: Many > eyes > make for shallow code, and many eyes keep the government in line. > > On 12 May 2012 15:30, Sanga Collins <[email protected]> wrote: > That's a naive view of the world we live in. Even parents keep secrets from > their children > > Sent from my mobile device > > On May 12, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Benjamin Tayehanpour > <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree. A government organisation which keeps secrets from its citizens is > not doing its job. Transparency is a cornerstone of democracy, and also a > pretty efficient way to reduce or even nigh eliminate corruption. > On 11 May 2012 18:29, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> wrote: > Police data is not and should not be secret if they are doing the right > thing! If they opened up they > could benefit from opensource tools like openmaps. They could learn from > geeks how to secure > themselves. If they went Linux instead of windows they wouldn’t get hacked > and compromised > so often. > When you need to get public work done go windows but if you really want > control, security, > accountability, robust and scalable computing, YOU GO LINUX! Did I mention > cheap? > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of > erias swraggy > Sent: 11 May 2012 17:49 > > To: Uganda Linux User Group > Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: UG SUSE Mobile Command Center > > Well, not bad an idea expect that u gonna have to sign a bunch of lousy > contracts refraining u frm sharing certain info evn wth ur most trusted > geeks;then it wud require geeks to get into de program..u knw, lyk > boy-scouts nt wth guns bt wth other force-gadgets, which tke long. I wud > suggest however, dat they outsource de geeks as an orgz'd grp. it's a > win-win. > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> wrote: > What about they advertise for geeks to get gigs or internships so that they > can get up to speed faster. > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of > erias swraggy > Sent: 11 May 2012 15:35 > To: Uganda Linux User Group > Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: UG SUSE Mobile Command Center > > To be honest am surprised to evn knw they use computers at our police > stations. Well, congs to that. How about letting them on about linux and > the > magic it could do for police work once utilized as their main OS? > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Benjamin Tayehanpour > <[email protected]> wrote: > Score! :D At least they now have something to their credit! > On 11 May 2012 00:54, Daniel Bwente <[email protected]> wrote: > Looks like its SUSE Linux 1 Windows 0 at Uganda Police. > > http://tinyurl.com/cbba3pu > > Cheers > > -- > > /Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > [email protected] > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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