I almost never install GUIs on my servers. I need reliability and performance more than anything else; the GUI generally gives me neither. Most of my servers are locked up in server rooms (or DCs) and the users are -- generally speaking -- never allowed to get anywhere near them. I'm also usually able to access them physically or via OOB.
That said, your scenario sounds like a good example of when a GUI on a server might make sense. Different problems call for different solutions and all that. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:15 PM, sanga collins <[email protected]>wrote: > I have the script (human script) for directing a highschool gradute to > find the network icon on any windows system with minimal fuss. Its even > part of our training for new employees. > > Take this scenario: Its monday morning @ 815am and i have just begun my > hour long commute to work. The client is 1800 miles away. They lost power > over the weekend and now no one can login, print, or open network shares. I > have 3 choices > > i) drive straight to the airport and try and get on standby flight > ii) Hang up with the client and try and call a few companies in their area > for quotes on getting a tech on site. > iii) MY favorite; Have the receptionist, office manager, or maintenance > man. Login to the server desktop open a browser and check if internet is > working. print a test page and create a txt doc on the file share. Then > finally reboot the server and everyone is back online before the traffic > light i am sitting at turns green. > > The desktop has its place ... even in a server, thats why the option is > there to install it. All our client Domain controllers are zentyal, the > desktop is a default part of the install. > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> ...you let a receptionist touch a server? Dude, stop digging! >> >> If I am correct in presuming you are also running the DE locally and >> don't do some clever X11 forwarding magic... Seriously? You put in an extra >> piece of hardware with direct access to memory (== greater potential for >> system crashing if it fails), insert an extra module into the kernel (same >> thing, with a far higher error rate) and you run the behemoth that is X and >> Gnome of all things, wasting prestanda and energy while making the whole >> system less stable? >> >> Also, I find it far easier to instruct an uninitiated person in >> copy-pasting some commands than to look for a yellow triangle with >> sawed-off ends and double click... No, double click... A bit faster... >> There you go. Now find the icon called "Networking"... Yeah, I'll wait... >> ... ... What do you mean it's not there, it must be there, I f***ing left >> it there (last part not said out loud)... Et cetera. >> >> >> On 2 July 2012 17:00, sanga collins <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I do and i am proud to do it!! >>> >>> In my experience the desktop on the server comes in very handy. Has >>> saved me from numerous disasters and its easy to walk a receptionist >>> through fixing her office server over the phone when there is a desktop >>> involved (even if the desktop is used to open terminal to type in: service >>> ETC restart --ignore-errors) >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Wait, you install a DE on servers? >>>> >>>> Don't say such things on a public list. No one will hire you if you let >>>> something like that be known ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2 July 2012 16:54, sanga collins <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The gui is important. I even install gnome desktop environment on all >>>>> my servers. But the command line is still critical for getting things done >>>>> in my day to day activities. I often wish windows dos prompt was as robust >>>>> as a linux console is. >>>>> >>>>> At the end the blogger is right. Nothing that is intended for the >>>>> average consumer should force them to do something from the command line >>>>> or >>>>> console!!! Leave that for the PROS! >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Richard Obore <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> please guys, don't kill me! >>>>>> :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/07/01/218255/has-the-command-line-outstayed-its-welcome >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>>>> >>>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>>>> >>>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>> >>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>>>>> (including attachments if any). 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Collins >>> Network Engineering >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Google Voice: (954) 324-1365 >>> E- fax: (435) 578 7411 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>> >>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>> [email protected] >>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>> >>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>> >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>> attachments if any). 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Collins > Network Engineering > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Google Voice: (954) 324-1365 > E- fax: (435) 578 7411 > > _______________________________________________ > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > [email protected] > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in > any way. >
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