synchronized > Hi, > > (we totally lost threading it seems) > > > > I dont think people should email their open source work to this > mailinglist. > > I hope people are active in 1 or more communities and are contributing > there > were it matters. On github, on joomla.org, just somewhere in a community > where > they can share their work and get feedback from the people that are > working on > the same projects. > > Also, the notion of starting a new FLOSS project is a very strange one. > Why > would you start a project from scratch? Managing an open source project is > a > MAJOR undertaking. Just hop on the bandwagon of an existing project and > see > how you can make yourself useful there. In return, use that project for > whatever you are doing in your daily life (like making money) > > There are very very very few 'pure' Ugandan FLOSS opportunities. > Integrations > between ERP/accounting systems and the URA or Mobile Money could be one. > Or a > Drupal module between the Drupal SMS Framework and an SMS provider like > Yo! > for example. Or a Luganda translation of Firefox. > > And note, all these 3 examples are part of a bigger project already. > > Most FLOSS software, if its good, will work anywhere. If it runs here, why > not > in Kenya, too? Or in Japan? > > We should really break out of Uganda and join the global developer > community. > We can learn a lot there. And help where we can. > > (The search.mountbatten.net server was actually switched off, I started it > to > show what you can do using available open source. Its not updated and I > will > switch it off soon as it is eating quite valueable resources.) > > rgds, > > Reinier > > > On Wednesday 09 January 2013 08:45:06 [email protected] > wrote: >> well, several years on and the internal Ugandan open source capacity is >> still lacking per the CVs you receive as you said (not so good).... >> There has to be a start, encouraging folks to submit their open source >> work to the list or suggesting projects that can be coded and made use >> of >> by the list, etc can help i think >> >> Your search engine works, except its quite slow as compared to google, >> but >> am going to start using it (hope it automatically crawls the web and >> indexes all the searches it fails to hit so they are available the next >> time i use it) >> http://search.mountbatten.net/home.jsp it works! >> >> > ah, yes, those days: >> > >> > directory of locally hosted sites: >> > http://local.mountbatten.net/ >> > >> > crawled index of locally hosted sites: >> > http://search.mountbatten.net/home.jsp >> > >> > both are extremely out of date. >> > >> > Thing is, I didnt use 'Ugandan' Open source to build those 2 sites as >> a >> > research project. I used Drupal for the directory, Apache Nutch for >> the >> > crawler and Apache Lucene for the search engine. >> > >> > We now use Apache Solr for our search projects, as that provides >> faceted >> > search (and is built on top of Lucene) >> > >> > We havent contributed to the Apache projects, but are maintaining some >> of >> > the >> > drupal search modules. Its a small small part of the big puzzle, but >> its >> > at >> > least something. >> > >> > Happy coding! >> > >> > rgds, >> > >> > reinier >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Monday 07 January 2013 10:51:55 >> [email protected] >> > >> > wrote: >> >> :) This is really interesting, the other side of the coin seems to >> look >> >> >> >> like this: any other ways to pass the test? Change the examiners >> >> questions >> >> to suit you? Or work with what you have to bring out the genius in >> you? >> >> >> >> Drupal could be cool, but you can as well set up a development team >> to >> >> build a CMS thats seamlessly Ugandan (working with the "facades" of >> all >> >> trades employees like you alluded to) >> >> >> >> This list featured so many posts about cities going open source, and >> >> someone suggested an open source metro network (guess KCCA would love >> >> that >> >> as a big investment for their youth stimulus packages if we could >> pursue >> >> it further) >> >> >> >> Someone also suggested a vehicle monitoring system, but declined to >> >> release its C++ source code he had done, let alone the system itself, >> >> perhaps it could get support from the folks on the list, there was a >> >> price >> >> comparator suggested, but.... Well, we could also be able to assemble >> >> the >> >> cheap phones from China ourselves and have the computer >> >> science/engineering departments certify the products before putting >> them >> >> on the market (thats if their labs are well equipped to do so..) >> >> >> >> :)On the open source network, we could also run our own yahoo and >> local >> >> >> >> search engines >> >> Maybe we could take the lead and encourage the local developers to >> >> release >> >> their open source projects to the list, so we can support them i >> >> guess... >> >> >> >> Happy New Year by the way >> >> >> >> > I think it is more interesting to talk about things we can change >> >> >> >> (like >> >> >> >> > Uganda) than to moan about the demise of a US corporation >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Monday 07 January 2013 08:06:03 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > An interesting comparison, Reinier. Yahoo! is a jack of all trades, >> >> >> >> but >> >> >> >> > king >> >> > of none. >> >> > >> >> > That still leaves me with the question "why aren't they already >> >> >> >> dead?", >> >> >> >> > though. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Reinier Battenberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > HI Joseph, >> >> > >> >> > You bring up a very interesting point, that is very valid in the >> >> >> >> Ugandan >> >> >> >> > context as well. >> >> > >> >> > There are a lot of FLOSS users in Uganda, especially in the website >> >> > building >> >> > business: joomla, wordpress, drupal, ushahidi. A lot of people can >> >> >> >> offer >> >> >> >> > you a >> >> > site for a very reasonable price because they use free software. >> >> > >> >> > Unfortunately there seem to be very few people that become active >> >> >> >> members >> >> >> >> > of >> >> > the community that comes with the tools they apply. >> >> > >> >> > I think there are 2 reasons for this: >> >> > >> >> > - "Why would you? It's free, I use is, and that's it." Very valid >> >> > statement, >> >> > but as you wont learn more about the internals of the tool you use, >> >> >> >> others >> >> >> >> > will come on to the market and do exactly the same as you: download >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> > install. This will make it harder for anyone who gets stuck at this >> >> >> >> level >> >> >> >> > to >> >> > compete. >> >> > >> >> > - Very few people tend to specialise. On the average CV that we >> >> >> >> receive, >> >> >> >> > if >> >> > they were all true, most people in ICT in Uganda can do anything: >> From >> >> > Oracle, >> >> > to PHP, from C++ to Networking all on 1 CV. If you know so many >> >> >> >> subjects, >> >> >> >> > its >> >> > pretty clear you can not be extremely good in any of them. And that >> is >> >> > what a >> >> > lot of employers are looking for: extremely good people. >> >> > >> >> > So, point of the email: a lot of IT people in Uganda could compare >> >> > themselves >> >> > to Yahoo. (And btw, reading John Graham's posts is a very good idea >> >> >> >> when >> >> >> >> > you >> >> > are in IT.) And it would be great if in 2013 we can see more >> Ugandan >> >> >> >> names >> >> >> >> > pop >> >> > up in the forums on drupal.org (for example)! >> >> > >> >> > rgds, >> >> > >> >> > Reinier >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Sunday 06 January 2013 21:37:38 Joseph Mutumi wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hello, >> >> > >> >> > This is a bit off topic but wanted to share it anyway. Think about >> >> >> >> Yahoo >> >> >> >> > before >> >> > you >> >> > plan for this year. >> >> > >> >> > Started the year by doing an audit on some of my accumulated login >> >> > credentials. >> >> > I realized a lot of them use my yahoo email which I noticed I >> actually >> >> >> >> no >> >> >> >> > longer use! >> >> > Yahoo in the news for all the wrong reasons; layoffs, product >> >> > discontinuations, >> >> > CEO >> >> > woos etc. What happened to all those profit speculations? So what >> >> >> >> killed >> >> >> >> > Yahoo? >> >> > >> >> > I did a search and came across this >> >> >> >> http://www.paulgraham.com/yahoo.html >> >> >> >> > I think this post albeit a bit old, nails it, with one interesting >> >> >> >> insight >> >> >> >> > being: >> >> > *Yahoo was killed because they didn't have a hacker-centric >> culture* >> >> > >> >> > Yahoo which used OSS failed to adopt OSS. OSS and the Linux stack >> is >> >> >> >> more >> >> >> >> > than >> >> > downloading packages for free, its a culture. A proven successful >> >> >> >> business >> >> >> >> > model and >> >> > work paradigm. If you believe your organization is using OSS but >> not >> >> > adopted >> >> > it watch >> >> > out 2013 may be just another bad year for you. >> >> > >> >> > That said I hope a lot of the IT corps come to their senses and >> start >> >> > backing >> >> > community. >> >> > I hope LUG flourishes this year. >> >> > >> >> > Happy New Year >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > rgds, >> >> > >> >> > Reinier Battenberg >> >> > Director >> >> > Mountbatten Ltd. >> >> > www.mountbatten.net >> >> > tel: +256 758 801749 >> >> > twitter: @batje >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> > >> >> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> >> > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> > >> >> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> > >> >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >> >> >> >> (including >> >> >> >> > attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for >> them >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> > any >> >> > way. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > rgds, >> >> > >> >> > Reinier Battenberg >> >> > Director >> >> > Mountbatten Ltd. >> >> > www.mountbatten.net >> >> > tel: +256 758 801749 >> >> > twitter: @batje_______________________________________________ >> >> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> > >> >> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> >> > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> > >> >> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> > >> >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >> >> >> >> (including >> >> >> >> > attachments if any). 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