This is true. It is impossible to say with absolute certainty that something is "useless".
In some situations, however, one could argue that there are more productive ways to invest in the community. The ffmpeg/avconv and cdrecord/wodim affairs come to mind... On 22 Feb 2013 17:36, "Victor van Reijswoud" <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes! All efforts to contribute need to be applauded. > > What is 'useless'? For who, for what? Useless today, but what about > tomorrow? Who is to determine useless/usefulness? > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Peter C. Ndikuwera <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hesitant to derail this into a flame-war but should useless open-source > be > > applauded just because it's open source? :-) > > > > P. > > -- > > Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable > events > > occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is > given > > credit. > > > > > > On 22 February 2013 18:18, Victor van Reijswoud > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Everyone who contributes to open source software (big or small) should > >> be encouraged and applauded. It is insulting to even ask the question > >> whether this Acholi translation is useful. > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Kizito Thomas <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > The question is; how people would use it? By the way, is it the code > in > >> > acholi or the labels and buttons that are printed in acholi but the > code > >> > is > >> > in another language? > >> > > >> > On Feb 22, 2013 4:21 PM, "G.Y. Mukalazi" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I beg to differ its not a waste of time. I think everything has to > >> >> start > >> >> from somewhere and the it will spur inspiration to other stuff. Now > it > >> >> only > >> >> makes sense to people who know English and Computer literate it will > >> >> move to > >> >> other stuff may be Operating systems and so on and Before we know It > we > >> >> have > >> >> Devices that are default to our languages and may be at that stage it > >> >> will > >> >> make sense to the Locals. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Kizito Thomas <[email protected] > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> I don't know why so but I subscribe to Richard's School of thought. > >> >>> Converting a web browser to a local language might not do any effect > >> >>> to > >> >>> Internet even coding society minus wasting them time. > >> >>> I am a Muganda and many Baganda will sign with me, It is easier to > >> >>> write > >> >>> an English paragraph than a similar Luganda paragraph. Not because > >> >>> Luganda is useless but because we have been brought up to study so > and > >> >>> to some people it is called brain washing off our mother language. > >> >>> Now that we have been brain washed already, we only need to look > >> >>> forward. > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Kind regards > >> >>> KTM > >> >>> +256752602550||+256782062708 > >> >>> "Mother of God-Pray for us sinners" > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 13:29 +0300, Jake Markhus wrote: > >> >>> > Richard, > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > I think it is easier teaching an English speaking person who is > also > >> >>> > fluent in Acholi. > >> >>> > It also gives the student some comfort and “familiarity”. A lot of > >> >>> > the > >> >>> > controls and menus > >> >>> > are meant to be intuitive. Translating them helps this. Of course > if > >> >>> > you put my browser in > >> >>> > Acholi/Luganda/Runyankole and I wasn’t familiar with the settings > by > >> >>> > sight, changing it > >> >>> > > >> >>> > back to English would be a pain in the… > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Basically the translation is meant to lower the barrier to > learning > >> >>> > and use. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > James > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> >>> > Behalf Of Richard Obore > >> >>> > Sent: Friday, 22 February 2013 13:24 > >> >>> > To: Uganda Linux User Group > >> >>> > Subject: Re: [LUG] FireFox now in Acholi > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > My name is Obore, so even though I wish to play devil's advocate > for > >> >>> > a > >> >>> > moment, I hope it is understood that am not against the Acholi (my > >> >>> > ancestors) or any local Ugandan tribe, or even translation... > >> >>> > > >> >>> > BUT: > >> >>> > > >> >>> > So, Firefox is in Acholi - now what? Are there any websites in > >> >>> > Acholi? > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Is it worth it translating anything to Luganda, Runyankore, > Lusoga, > >> >>> > etc? > >> >>> > (besides sentimental value & proof of concept) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > I suspect that most Ugandans who have access to a browser plus > >> >>> > internet connection speak English anyway, don't they? > >> >>> > (OK, maybe not the Bukedde group, but all others i suppose) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > I have no facts to support what i claim - just anecdotal evidence. > >> >>> > But > >> >>> > am open to your ideas. > >> >>> > Whats your opinion? Are there any records about non-english > literacy > >> >>> > in Uganda? > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > R. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Kyle Spencer <[email protected] > > > >> >>> > wrote: > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Very cool :) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Feb 20, 2013 12:21 AM, "Mugabi Allan" > >> >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > This is incredible, focusing more on Local Content > >> >>> > before reaching out to the World. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > -- > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > _______________________________________________________________________ > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Mugabi Allan Kitaka | Google Student Ambassador > >> >>> > Lead | Uganda Christian University | Uganda > >> >>> > | +256785225384 > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > _______________________________________________ > >> >>> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing > >> >>> > e-mails to: [email protected] > >> >>> > Mailing list archives: > >> >>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> >>> > Mailing list settings: > >> >>> > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >> >>> > To unsubscribe: > http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >> >>> > > >> >>> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted > by > >> >>> > INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> >>> > > >> >>> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever > >> >>> > posted them (including attachments if any). 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