just realized its not going to be long before we can pay godaddy to host our 
sites and then pay Akamai to copy them over to Kenya for us.

How is that for a lose-lose situation?


On Tuesday 26 February 2013 14:44:31 you wrote:



We just experienced a 2 day slowdown of the interwebs, because of breakages in 
Kenya.

Local traffic was very comfortably fast during those days.

And if the internet is local, why does Akamai exist? Why is 80% of my facebook 
page coming from fbcdn.akamai.com? Maybe because Akamai does exactly what you 
deny: bring content closer to the end users.

And if we would depend on everything being run abroad, how will we every 
learn? There are some pretty decent & dedicated sysops in Uganda. (I always 
run into them in the middle of the night when visiting Roke for example).

Yeah, if you want to be pragmatic, maybe we can outsource the country to 
Germany. Or we can stand up and fix stuff ourselves.

rgds,
reinier


On Tuesday 26 February 2013 12:31:44 Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote:

If there are stable datacentres with high availability and expedient staff, 
then I agree. I'm just saying I've yet to experience that. I will not argue 
against you on that point, because you have more experience on the Ugandan 
market than I ever will. 
However, what you then go on to say doesn't make sense, totally or otherwise. 
Why does it matter whether the service is local or not? The Internet is fairly 
location-neutral; there are no long-distance charges to deal with, and no 
individual or small business in Uganda will have a good enough last-mile 
connection to have a bottleneck occur anywhere other than in the last mile. I 
do concede that it is good to support local alternatives, but if you are 
running a business and not a charity you need to have the quality of service 
as your first consideration. 
On 26 Feb 2013 12:18, "Reinier Battenberg" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

 
I work on a local prompt 10% of my day every day, across ISPs, and it works, 
once its setup correctly.
 
I think there is a current wave of more local services going on, which is 
great. MTN is offering datacenter services, Datanet launched theirs, 
OneSolutions is betting heavily on local VPS services. 
 
And for a lot of online services, especially content heavy ones, that makes 
total sense. Why host something like http://www.mafutago.com/ which has a 100% 
target audience in Uganda, anywhere else? 
 
Why would Ugandan websites host in the US, while US companies have a cache 
inside Uganda for their content?
 
rgds,
reinier
 
 
On Tuesday 26 February 2013 11:44:54 Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote:

I agree, although using mosh over SSH somewhat mitigates that.
The problem is that, in my experience with Koen and his hired domestic VPS, 
the lag is almost unbearable compared to communicating with a server abroad. 
It might just be that that particular company is shite at what they do, but it 
seems that with Ugandan VPSes, there are two potential bottlenecks instead of 
just one as it should be. 
On 26 Feb 2013 11:26, "Reinier Battenberg" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

 
it *is* more comfortably to type on a command prompt with a latency of less 
than 20ms, instead of more than 300 though.
 
 
On Tuesday 26 February 2013 11:21:08 Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote:

Another option would be to buy computing time abroad, if domesticity isn't a 
requirement.
On 26 Feb 2013 11:16, "Simon Vass" <[email protected]> wrote:

I think I would rephrase that but essentially yes.


On 26/02/13 13:14, Reinier Battenberg wrote:

very true, simon. At the moment the Datanet offer for local traffic is not 
really
working out. While datanet is peering with the UIXP, no other members at the
UIXP are peering with datanet. You'll get your keystrokes on MTN going via
london into your VPS.

Rather take another option, while you can.

rgds.
reinier


On Tuesday 26 February 2013 13:11:53 Simon Vass wrote:

As do Datanet, but you might have a hard time getting to them over the
IX ;-)

On 26/02/13 13:07, Reinier Battenberg wrote:

Hi,

You can try Roke Telkom, they lease out VPS's.

You can mail:
James Byaruhanga <[email protected]>

rgds,

Reinier

On Tuesday 26 February 2013 13:05:05 Mike Epps wrote:

Hello guys,
I was wondering if any one out there knows of any company in Uganda
that deals shell accounts, that is Linux accounts that I can SSH into
and install personal software.

thanks in advance
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