About the Jauck lute in Budapest:

I have a small booklet with photos of some of the instrument of the
Hungarian National Museum. It contains a a photo of a  theorba made by
Joannes Jauck. (I can scan and send you the photo if needed.) The short
description in the booklet says the instrument has two inscriptions:
1. 'Joannes Jauck me Fecit Graecii Anno 17(38)'
2. 'Mattheus Ignatius Bradstetter Reparavit Viennae Anno 1830'

So it seems to me this is another Jauck, Joannes not Andreas, from a later
period, working in Graz, Austria. (Still I have to check it with the museum
if possible as there are no reference numbers with the instruments  in my
booklet.)

I will try to inquire in the National Museum in case you want me to.

Best regards:

Gábor Domján


----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Thames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:08 PM
Subject: Jauck lute


> Dear lute makers and all, I recently got back from a trip to the east =
> coast where I was kindly given permission to draw a couple of lutes.  =
> One was the Andreas Berr in Boston , but more importantly the Andreas =
> Jauck at Yale. Below I describe the Jauck and have a few observations.  =
> I'm wondering if anyone has seen other Jauck's=20
>    1)  Budapest National Museum of Hungary No. 1951.45
>     2)  Brussels Musee Instrumental No. 251
>     3)  Vienna KHM No. GDM 61
>
> and if the conversion sounds similar, or just any thoughts on this.
>
>
>     The body of the Jauck is a 37-ribbed yew wood lute.  Andy Rutherford =
> says in his notes He thinks it to be a 1600 to 1640 Italian lute . =
> However the curator told me Ray Nurse thinks it is French only because =
> of the style of the points which are very strange, as they extended way =
> down into the body.  I think it is Italian as I haven't heard of any =
> leading French lute makers from this period,( I'm not a historian and =
> actually have little to go on about that) and most likely the points =
> were done at the time of the conversion. The last two ribs were planned =
> down almost to the next rib in the conversion. The top had a pronounced =
> arch across the grain, which was most defiantly a design of Jauck, as it =
> doesn't appear to be from humidity as the ribs were planed to take the =
> arch. The end clasp was almost non-existent, and my feeling is that some =
> of it was  planned off in the conversion. There was also a large bulge =
> where the ribs curve into the end clasp, and I really wonder how this =
> could happen? I saw this to a lot lesser degree in the Berr lute that I =
> drew at the Boston museum of fine arts, Also this appears in the plans =
> by Lunberg of the Frei. If anyone has any thoughts about this I would =
> love to hear them. I don't know but speculate that perhaps during the =
> conversion the area of the end clasp was pulled in therefore creating =
> the bulge? It seems that all conversion lutes that I've seen personally =
> and of plans I've seen have this problem bulge. And again I'm not an =
> expert in this, but at the same time it seems crazy that the original =
> maker would have done this and also seems unlikely that humidity could =
> cause this either.=20
>
>    I'm not sure how to proceed to draw up the plans, as I have no =
> interest to copy exactly the body with so many alterations from the =
> original.  I am working with a friend of mine from a national lab to =
> recreate the original body shape on a computer, and as I said, the ribs =
> were planned down and that would change the shape of the top as well. =
> The bridge seemed to be original, as I could see no evidence of it being =
> moved, but for that matter the whole top with the bridge could have been =
> used from an existing lute?  I didn't bother to copy much of bridge as a =
> new piece was screwed on to the top of the original bridge using three =
> small screws and was unusually high, and not very appealing. I am =
> thinking of drawing up both plans one of the original and one of a =
> working model with a computer recreation of the original.  If anyone has =
> any thoughts about this I would love to hear from you. A few photos are =
> included.
>
>    Thanks,
>
> =20
>
> =20
>
> Michael Thames
> Luthier
> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
>
> --
>





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