Thomas: You have described a particular aspect of our modern culture and its recognition of what it considers art. A number of years ago a museum in the USA paid an artist $5,000 for a sealed mason jar filled with his fecal deposit. Is this art?? Not as far as I am concerned, we have legitimized The King's New Clothes. It seems if you have the nerve to criticize such a thing that you are considered ignorant and uncultured.
Vance Wood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Schall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "LUTE-LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 5:59 AM Subject: Re: John Cage on Lute > You name the problem - I will never understand how clever marketing made > "artists" out of craftsmen like Warhol or Cage (I'm not sure if > craftsman isn't a compliment). They earn(ed) a large amount of money > with crap better suitably for a TV-spot or a comedy show. > But maybe that's the new paradigma of art. > > I'll never understand how advertising could be regarded as art, as > clever as it may be made. > I've leaned (in all briefness) there would two items defining art: form > and content. Given this advertising will never have a chance to produce > works of art. > > Thomas > > P.S.: I just wonder why I would consider PDQ as artist ... > > Am Fre, 2003-12-19 um 14.43 schrieb Roman Turovsky: > > > Amen. (Ditto Boulez, who is worse because he is still alive and in control > > of the money bag that could be used for real composers.) > > RT > > ______________ > > Roman M. Turovsky > > http://turovsky.org > > http://polyhymnion.org > > > > > Dear Michael, > > > > > > It is possible that John Cage achieved something as a composer, but, > > > if he did, it has escaped me. Cutting strings, performing in > > > silence, and all those other sad gimmicks are utterly abhorrent. No > > > doubt he is making some clever, meaningful point, as purport the > > > forlorn heaps of modern art junk which clutter the Tate Gallery in > > > London, but I hate it. It is anti-music, anti-art, anti-culture, > > > anti-everything to which genuine musicians aspire, and as such, it > > > is thoroughly worthless. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Stewart. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Michael Stitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:39 PM > > > Subject: John Cage on Lute > > > > > > > > >> > > >> Does any one know whether John Cage wrote for the lute in his life > > > time? > > >> > > >> I heard something about a contemporary composer who wrote a > > > Passaicialle where after each return of the bass motif, a course was > > > cut with sizzors until all strings were no more. Then silence. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thomas Schall > Niederhofheimer Weg 3 > D-65843 Sulzbach > 06196/74519 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.lautenist.de / www.tslaute.de/weiss > > --
