Tom,

You are well informed on aspects of Cage's life and music and deliver your
thoughts with eloquence.  Thank you.

Cage questioned everything musical and, from what I understand, felt in no
way compelled to follow convention.
Like his music or not (I like much of it - am still struggling to understand
some), his innovation did influence musical thought for some years.  I
agree, Oliver Messiaen (another of my favorites), Boulez, Alban Berg and
other 20th century greats do indeed owe him a debt.   Cage was a pioneer.
He constantly challenged boundaries and somehow made it okay for others to
take their music where it may not have otherwise gone.  Cage was passionate
about the use of "chance" in his works ... maybe that was his convention.

In May of 1973, I was fortunate to be able to spend a day with John Cage
hunting morel mushrooms (one of his favorite endeavors in later years) in
the north Michigan woods.  He had agreed to visit the composition class at a
small music school in northern Michigan I was attending at the time.
Strangely enough, most of our conversation was about non-musical
subjects.... rather, I should say, "non-compositional".  I think the woods
had a profound effect on him.   That of course, was 30 years ago and memory
fades but, to this day,  I'm struck by both the quiet intensity of his
persona-  and his love and reverence for all life.  That was the only time
only time I met John Cage.  .

I, for one, see no duality in your love of things serial and your interest
in the lute.  My musical interests float between early music, what we called
"avante garde" 20th century , and serial music.  I might leave one genre for
a while, but I always come back.

John Cage's music on the lute...... why not?

Best wishes,

Mike


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> Though I was never, even in my most radical student days, an admirer of
> Cage's music, his influence has been enormous. The music I always found
profoundly
> dull, the notorious 4' 33" silly (though it must be one of the first
pieces of
> concept art in modern times (pace Duchamps et al). But questions like his
> 'Why is a Beethoven symphony more interesting than a cow bell?' is much
less easy
> to answer than might at first seem. One usually ends up arguing in
circles,
> 'Beethoven is better than a cow bell because Beethoven us better than a
cow
> bell'. And the concept of silence or the effects of extraneous noise not
only in
> the world in the world around us, but also in music itself, is something
that,
> as Howard pointed out, often overlooked. As regards silence, Webern made
its
> dramatic effect clearer than ever before, and I find it difficult to
imagine a
> time when I didn't hear, say, the beginning of the 'Eroica' without taking
> into account the effect of the pauses (there are, of course, countless
other
> examples of the structural significance of silence in classical music).
>
> Cage knew what he was doing, and why. Of course he was an iconoclast, but
a
> fascinating one, like so many intelligent Americans. We Europeans tend to
look
> at our heritage in an incestuous way, while the Americans see it from the
> outside, and ask, perfectly sensibly, 'Why all the fuss?' I first came
across this
> as a post-grad in Oxford in the 1960s, where many of my best friends were
> Americans. Initially one was shocked by their questions, but very soon saw
that
> they were in reality questioning not the 'thing in itself', but our
European
> attitude towards it, encrusted with devotion, history, reverence because
it was
> 'old',  and convinced it was 'great' because we had been told by the
powers
> that be that it was. Their attitude was, 'What does it mean to ME?', and
not
> what the establishment intend it to mean to me. It was intensely
refreshing, and
> has certainly left its mark on me for life. 'Go your own way', was the
> message, 'Do your own thing, and if the toffs don't like it, well, hard
luck on the
> toffs!'
>
> There is lot to be said for that. Friends think it odd that a lover of
serial
> music like me should take up the lute, but, following the lesson my
American
> friends taught me, I've always gone my own way, and am glad I've done so.
John
> Cage is part of that way of thinking. He questioned the basis of European
> music, above all its love of itself, and that was a great moment in the
recent
> history of the art. Boulez, Messiaen and others owe a huge debt to him,
for he
> helped return sound to the world of sound, and it no longer was there
merely to
> portray things, landscapes, feelings, etc., but simply to be sound for its
> own wonderful sake. Mallarme, did much the same for poetry.  But as I say,
I
> never liked Cage as a musician. But as a pointer and prophet, he was
peerless.
> Cheers
>
> Tom
>
> --


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