Dear Thomas;

        Please define "serious composer."

                                                         Gary Digman

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Thomas Schall
   Date: 19 Dec 2003 17:36:47 +0100
   To: Howard Posner
   Subject: Re: John Cage on Lute
   >  If  I  could regard this as a joke it would be a fine idea but if I
   recall
   > right Cage really thought to be a serious composer.
   >  Reminds  me  on  a  german  band  (I  think  it  was "Einstuerzende
   Neubauten")
   >  which  recorded  a  similar  piece called "Nichts" (nothing) in the
   80's.
   >
   >  Strawinski's  comment  propably  meant  any  time  Cage spends with
   nothing is
   > better than if he would produce tones ...
   >
   > Thomas
   >
   > Am Fre, 2003-12-19 um 16.05 schrieb Howard Posner:
   >
   > > Roman Turovsky at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   > >
   >  >  >  Was  the  piece that requires no playing? I forget the title,
   something like
   > > > "4.32". Just sit for 4 and a half minutes an d take your bows.
   > >
   >  > Close. It was 4'33" (as in four minutes, 33 seconds) and involves
   slightly
   > > (but not much) more than just sitting. The first performance (this
   is an
   >  > account, mind you, written by someone who thought the piece worth
   writing
   > > about) in 1952 went like this:
   > >
   >  >  "Tudor  placed the hand-written score, which was in conventional
   notation
   >  > with blank measures, on the piano and sat motionless as he used a
   stopwatch
   >  >  to  measure the time of each movement. The score indicated three
   silent
   >  >  movements,  each  of a different length, but when added together
   totalled four
   >  > minutes and thirty-three seconds. Tudor signaled its commencement
   by
   >  >  lowering the keyboard lid of the piano. The sound of the wind in
   the trees
   >  > entered the first movement. After thirty seconds of no action, he
   raised the
   >  >  lid to signal the end of the first movement. It was then lowered
   for the
   >  > second movement, during which raindrops pattered on the roof. The
   score was
   >  >  in  several  pages,  so  he turned the pages as time passed, yet
   playing nothing
   >  >  at  all.  The  keyboard lid was raised and lowered again for the
   final
   > > movement, during which the audience whispered and muttered."
   > >
   > > You can read all about it at www.azstarnet.com/~solo/4min33se.htm.
   > >
   >  >  Stravinsky remarked that he hoped we could have similar works of
   major
   > > length from Cage.
   > >
   > > HP
   >
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