very good ariel, i take your point.

complimenti - bill
On Marted�, giu 1, 2004, at 19:04 Europe/Rome, Ariel Abramovich wrote:

> From my humble point of view, you know what's the problem of bringing
> subjects like all this to the forum?
> We (the members of this list) don't have the minimum necessary 
> elements for
> a serious and productive debate about politics, nor a simple fair and
> productive exchange.
> In other words:
> Our perception of word's reality is totally different (our realities 
> are
> totally different), as well as our values are. Apart from that, we 
> don't
> even share the same categories, so we don't even have a common 
> language to
> start with... Methodologically we're already failing.
> A very easy and quite obvious example: think about what the word 
> freedom
> means for you, and I guarantee that will have little to do with the 
> meaning
> I give to "libertad".
> A very concrete example: HR watch is a foundation  created ironically 
> by a
> person (Mr. Soros) who, according to some values, has little respect 
> for
> human rights (I could go on, but I don't think that's good). At the 
> same
> time, it is for you a good source of information...
> It is not a matter of playing the autistic by avoiding any topic not
> directly linked with lute and music, but all this- music and lutes- is 
> what
> we actually have in common. That's the place in which we can actually 
> meet,
> share things, and learn from each other, no matter how different we are
> (even talking only about that we had difficult moments).
> What's the point then in finding out about how horrible, selfish, one 
> sided,
> narrow minded or whatever we might turn resulting to each other?
> It would be like talking about sexual preferences in the forum. More 
> than a
> member would be horrified if we all  turned to be totally open about 
> it.
> Don't you think?
> Personally, I can also delete the emails I'm not interested in, but I 
> prefer
> to exchange my ideas about some things in some other places.
> Saludos,
> A
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