Posner,
  In the context of what Ness is saying, and all his previous emails trying to 
establish pitch notation as superior to tablature, for lutenists........I most 
certainly stand by what I said. He's saying that historically, novices read tab 
until they go on to higher forms of notation, (pitch) I suggest you go back and 
re read what Ness said, it's
 right there on paper, and Posner, you can put the dictionary aside, there are 
words in that sentence,  even you can understand. 
     The challenge for you, "the village bore " is to get beyond your contempt 
for me, and everything I say.  From your screwy Geometry, to site reading, you 
attack whatever I say.... That would be fine and welcome, but usually you 
really have nothing much to say, other than to correct my spelling etc.  How 
juvenile!
    Do you really believe Courperin wrote lute music?
    Do you really believe  Byrd wrote lute music?  I'll help you out here 
Posner, and give you a little heads up...."original" lute music is played ON 
the lute, and historically lutenists spoke in tab as has been the case with 
anybody of any significance. From Spinacino to Weiss.
  Ness, is rewriting lute history as we speak. He's even suggested that DAS 
come out with a revised edition of "History of the lute"! Do you agree with 
this? All to prove his stupid point!
   If we start using Ness's system of classification....  all music sinks into 
the murky water of....neither fish nor fowl.  You don't need to be a 
musicologist to understand this mistake.
     As Sal pointed out Beethoven's 9th sounds very different on piano, than 
the original orchestral conception. In  the same way Byrd's Keyboard music, 
sounds way different on the lute. If you listen to Byrd's keyboard music on the 
keyboard, the texture is much thicker, and almost impossible to play on the 
lute.  However, lute music is very easy on the keyboard.  I doubt that any 
keyboard player would play the exact lute version, it would  sound pretty 
sparse, They would do an arrangement, notice I used the word arrangement, 
rather than transcription, in this case.
   Paul Odette told me that when Bach Arranged the so called "e minor" lute 
suite for keyboard, he added more chords changed the harmony, and thickened the 
texture to sound better on keyboard.
    In Nessisum, he proclaims a  nihilistic doctrine , and BTW Posner, the 
definition of nihilism....."1, a doctrine that all values are baseless, that 
nothing is knowable, and itself meaningless".  This pretty much describes Mr. 
Ness's recipe for historical musical soup, yuck!
   
  
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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