Franceso is absolutely correct.  Going from a .40 to a .38 will not improve 
string life.  The smaller diameter does not have enough fibers to support a 
treble.  As I have said in the past, we in modern times are pushing the 
upper limits of gut.  Franciesco is correct also, in that the upper limit 
of G at 440 is around 59 cm.  If one exceeds that length, he/she needs to 
lower the pitch.  For d minor baroque lutes, at a = 415, anything over 68 
cm will also result in premature string breakage.  The only way, in a 
baroque lute, to use a gut treble, at ANY size of diameter, is to lower the 
pitch.  For example, for my 70.5 cm mensur baroque lute, I cannot go to F 
at 415.... I must lower the pitch.  There are testimonials of good luck 
with longer mensurs, but in keeping within the upper limits is the only way 
gut trebles will be somewhat long-lasting.

ed





At 06:39 PM 10/31/2005 +0100, Francesco Tribioli wrote:
> > So, what's the moral? Sh$t happens, strings do break. Could I
> > have avoided this? Of course, I was stubborn and used 0.40mm
> > first strings. 0.38mm would have been better because of the
> > lower tension. Secondly, I was a miser to use up my supply of
>Not at all. As many times it was pointed out, the thickness of a string
>doesn't affect the breaking point. That is different gut strings will break
>at the same tuning pitch, given a constant vibrating length, more or less
>independently of their gauge. It is a thing that can be demonstrated
>mathematically and proved empirically. On the contrary I would say that
>perhaps a tiny string is even more delicate and more easy to break. If the
>tuning pitch was a=440Hz I guess the problem is that 62cm is quite a long
>vibrating length for a lute tuned in g. A safe length for gut strung lutes
>tuned in g at 440Hz pitch is around 59-60cm. With this measure a gut
>chanterelle can last 2-3 weeks in normal conditions.
>
>Francesco
>
>
>
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