Hi David,
ap Huw: This is precisely why I was interested in your message: I 
thought you had the key to the code...
I think there are interesting parallels between the harp tradition and 
the early english lute dumps: see  
http://cbsr26.ucr.edu/wlkfiles/Publications/dumpe.html for my theory. 
Since I wrote that page, I found a mention of a "dolefull dump" being 
played on the battlefield (after the battle) in a late 18th century book 
devoted to Ireland, although it is likely that the reference may not 
have been to a specific and still contemporary style.
The "finger picking" style of many dumps with the thumb alternance on 
two basses could fit well I think with the harp technique of a bass-line 
being played with the thumb and index finger of the left hand: but does 
such a technique really exist?
Alain


David Rastall wrote:

>Yes, there's that Robert ap Huw source, and I *think* there is some  
>harp tab in the Skene MS.  I could be wrong about that.
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>Cynthia Cathcart is a clarsach player who comes to mind on the  
>subjects of both harp tab and lute tab.  She's the local guru on  
>clarsach-related subjects in the Washington DC area:  she plays  
>strictly wire-strung (on very beautiful Ardival harps!).  I don't  
>know if she actually sightreads the old Scottish lute tab but (just  
>to keep things lute-related here) I know she's able to utilize it to  
>make arrangements for the wire-strung harp.  In a way I guess that's  
>sort of like transcribing Chillesotti from guitar notation back to  
>lute tab!
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>On Jan 26, 2006, at 3:41 PM, marigold castle wrote:
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>>  Actually, many folk harpers don't play by ear. Most of us amateur  
>>folk harpers, being lazy dogs, just buy books of predigested harp  
>>music converted into modern musical notation. We leave the playing  
>>(and arranging) from original sources to the likes of Grainne Yeats  
>>or Alison Kinnaird. ;)
>>    
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>So do I!  They do it so well!  Alison Kinneard's arrangements are  
>very wire-strung friendly!  But what I meant about playing by ear was  
>that after I've learned a tune I'm able to play it without having the  
>sheet music in front of me.  I can make my own arrangement of it.  I  
>do this with all the tunes I know on both clarsach and hammered  
>dulcimer.  Unlike the lute, which I have to play from the tablature  
>every time.
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>David R
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