We all have our favorite ways of supporting the lute while we play, but this particular strap/loop method requires an addition to the construction of the lute: a second strap peg fitted near the base of the neck where the neck meets the body.
I've never seen a lute actually from the 16th or 17th century, but I've seen plenty of historical copies of particular lutes from the renaissance/Baroque made by present-day luthiers, and not one has had such a strap peg . I've never even heard of it as an "added feature." Surely if this strap/gut loop method of supporting the lute was widely used, then at least some of the surviving lutes would have had these pegs in them. Wouldn't the pegs have been included in renaissance/Baroque luthiers' plans and drawings? I guess what I'm saying is, with all the historical copies that have been cranked out over the last 30 years or so, why has this strap/loop thing not been common knowledge, and widely used today as it was back then: particularly since there should be some evidence on early lutes in the form of the extra strap peg? David Rastall On May 3, 2006, at 2:15 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: > > Dear Stewart, > > The business of holding lutes with straps/ gut loops was aired > about a year ago and you'll no doubt find the communications in the > archives. > > At the time I was particularly interested in the gut loop option > since, in the late 70s, I had done some restoration work on a > Gallichon/Mandora (Stautinger 1773) which not only had these > buttons on the body but also actually had a loop of gut tied > between them; wether the gut loop was 18thC is, of course, quite > another matter. > > Whilst the use of a loop round a button seemed, on the face of > it, an eminently practical and sensible thoery; the difficulty I > had was in making it work in practice. I asked if any one else had > tried it and, I recall, only got a single response which echoed my > own negative experience. > > Have you actually tried this method or do you know of anybody who > has? More to the point if you, or others, have tried it what has > been the experience? > > MH > > > Stewart McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Craig and Katherine, > > An alternative to using a strap, which was used in the 17th Century, > is to tie a gut string between two pegs on the body of the > instrument. One peg is where you'd expect to see a peg, i.e. in the > middle of the end clasp; the other peg is fixed through the middle > rib just before the body joins the neck. The string is tied so that > it lies flush with the middle rib, and you hook it over a button on > your coat to stabilise the lute. It is thought that Mouton may be > holding his lute this way in that famous picture of him. If you > think the artist hasn't quite got it right, and the lute looks as if > it is suspended in front of the player as if by magic, it is > possible that it is being held in this way. There is an article by > Robert Spencer in _Early Music_, with a picture of the back of a > lute, showing the gut string tied between two pegs. I could look up > the reference if you want. > > If you play the lute standing up, and without a strap or a piece of > string between two pegs, you have to use your left hand to support > the instrument. This can be satisfactory for short periods, but can > cause irritation to the part of the hand holding the neck, > unaccustomed to the friction involved. Barré chords are problematic, > so you may have to tinker with the music a bit, e.g. change > > |\ | > |\ | > |\ | > _______________a_____ > _____f__e____|_a__||_ > ___________d_|_c__||_ > _____e_______|_c__||_ > __c__________|_c__||_ > _____________|_a__||_ > > to > > |\ | > |\ | > |\ | > _____a_________a_____ > _____a__e____|_a__||_ > _____a_____d_|_c__||_ > _____________|____||_ > __c__________|____||_ > _____________|_a__||_ > > Best wishes, > > Stewart McCoy. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Allen" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:18 PM > Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute straps > > >> Katherine Davies wrote: >>> >>> There are lots of renaissance pictures of people >>> playing lutes while standing up without any sign of a >>> strap. Does anyone do this? Any ideas on how - or if - >>> it could be done? >>> >>> I'm not having a go at strap-users; I'm just a bit >>> puzzled - I have enough trouble keeping the thing in >>> place when I'm sitting down. >> >> A good friend of mine has been doing studies into the Medieval > harp and all the iconography she's seen shows what she calls the > magically levitating harp. No sign of a strap or other gadget to > rest it on the knees (one harper I know has a crossbar on a wooden > knob that fits into the sound hole in the back of the harp and the > crossbar rests on his knees). She's been trying to figure out > whether there is some sort of mechanism in place that the painted > didn't see or if the painters simply didn't understand how the > instrument is played took artiztic license. I"ve tried playing the > lute standing up without a strap and it's very difficult for me. So > I prefer to sit with a piece of suede across my knee to keep the > lute from slipping. >> >> Regards, >> Craig >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer >> 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. >> Signup at www.doteasy.com >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Switch an email account to Yahoo! Mail, you could win FIFA World > Cup tickets. > --
