i agree - appears to me that he's sitting on a
three-legged stool, purpose built to support a lute.

avoiding any reference to the "lute as vulva"
correspondence of a while back, i'd say that the shaft
between the gent's legs, which appears to support the
lute is either the handle of a sword (something like a
scabbard appears to exit from under his left knee) or
is, indeed, an integral part of a stool, designed for
the comfort of lute players.

i don't think the lute is resting on the table or on
his leg.  folds in fabrics and the suggestion of a
bosom on the lady harpist indicates that meckenem the
younger was capable of illustrating what the line of a
leg (flesh and cloth) would look like with a lute
resting on it - if he had chosen to draw it.

someone with a knowledge of early furniture might be
helpful here.

love the shoes ...

- bil
--- Rob Dorsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  It does not appear to be a chair at all but rather
> some sort of stool,
> triangular with 3 legs of which one protrudes above
> the "seat" plane and
> upon which he seems to be resting the body of the
> lute. Historians, could
> there have been a "lute stool" (no potty jokes
> please) made to support the
> corpus organum (also no organ jokes)?
> 
> Inquiring Minds,
> 
> Rob Dorsey
> http://RobDorsey.com 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doctor Oakroot
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 7:49 AM
> To: Lute List
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute stand???
> 
> Looks to me like he's sitting with his left leg
> through the back of the
> chair (maybe the back is just the two extensions
> from the back legs) and
> that's one side of the back... but that would be
> even more uncomfortable
> than the dagger and unstable.
> 
> > Greetings All,
> >
> > A friend sent me a link to this enggraving by
> Meckenem the Younger.
> >
> >
>
http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=24901
> >
> > Now I have seen this engraving before but she
> mentioned a "lute stand"
> > and upon looking more closely I see she was
> referring to something
> > that is sticking up under the lute between the
> player's legs. Now in
> > looking further this appears to extend below the
> stool he's sitting on
> > and I'm not convinced it's a lute stand but
> instead a dagger on a
> > belt. Why the player would have this in the
> position it's in is beyond
> > me as it seems that it would be most uncomfortable
> and the hilt would tend
> to scratch the lute.
> > Also he appears to be leaning on the table to
> support the lute and
> > thus an additional stand might not be necessary.
> So I ask you all,
> > what do you think it is?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >
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