i'm an american and an oud player and i resent like
hell the collective blanket of guilt that arto is
attempting to cast over everyone else from the good
ol' usa with his (admittedly) very off topic post.
arto - finland sided with the nazis during the second
world war. i know there were reasons for this and i
imagine (i hope!) that the vast majority of your
countrymen - even if they had wanted to - were
powerless to influence events.
but if the metaphorical chickens contained in your
posting below were to come home to roost, then ...
yes or no, arto: have you (the collective, finnish
"you") stopped being nazis?
the only place i have any real influence on this
planet is in the confines of my own vegetable garden
(to borrow a reference from voltaire) and arto ...
talented musician and generous contributor that you
are ... i would humbly and respectfully suggest that
you - and anyone else of a similar,
"fundamentalistist" persuasion - stop searching for
"great satan" in the united states of america and
start hoeing your own god-damned row.
--- Arto Wikla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> it is going bad! Mr. Bush - the winner of the USA
> elections, the man
> chosen by (nearly) half of the Amercians, has
> managed to produce a
> civilian war in a country, where he sent his
> military. Tens if not
> hundreds of people are killed EVERY day! Human
> beings like you or me.
> This is one the very rare cases of a superpover
> sending its military to
> occupy a state after the second world war...
>
> The guy and his country is bound to that mess for a
> long, LONG time. And
> the same guy took care of taking the USA out of the
> so called "western
> values" by his concentration camps and accepting the
> torture. Even in the
> legistlation of the USA there seems to be something
> like "light
> torture" nowadays... Horrible!
>
> To me the modern USA represents a new historical
> period of gettig out of
> the the times of the so called Enlightment, the time
> where human rights
> were taken seriously. And now we have come back to
> the Dark Ages again?
> Or?
>
> Arto
>
>
>
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