You make it sound as though the piano is easy.  I'll tell you what's  
easy:  for guitarists/lutenists to proclaim that their instrument is  
soooooo much harder to learn than the piano!  Please, you're breaking  
my heart  :-(  :-(  Do you think piano students don't spend years  
learning to play?  Think again.  Absolutely the guitar and lute are  
difficult!  So is everything else I think, isn't it?

DR

On Jul 6, 2007, at 4:18 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> David,
>
> --- LGS-Europe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Lutes and guitars _are_ difficult instruments.
>> Guitar pupil of mine of about
>> 12, doing well after three years of lessons,
>> enjoying it and studying
>> regulary at home (!), performed his piece on this
>> year's pupils' night.
>
> Congratulations!  Sounds like the kind of student you
> wish all your other students could be more like.
>
>> He
>> really did well, no obvious mistakes, played through
>> the whole piece without
>> stopping, it was musical, he had some tone and
>> volume. Afterward his mother
>> comes up to me: "Is that all?"
>
> Ouch!  Frustrating!  But, as you went on to say, there
> are reasons for this attitude.
>
> Nowadays, I don't deal so much with true beginners,
> but I took over a guitar program at a college that had
> lagged for years.  I set about recruiting new students
> and did fairly well in raising enrollment, but many of
> these kids, though enthusiastic, had not learned under
> a systematic approach.
>
> It was a real test of patience and humility at the
> beginning.  For one thing, I was "the new guy" among
> the faculty.  Then, on the string juries I'd have to
> sit through a sophomore violin student's nice
> rendition of a Mendelssohn or Bruch concerto movement
> or a cello student's several movements of a Bach
> suite, not to mention lightening-quick scales.
> Meanwhile, some of my most advanced students might be
> able to follow them with something like Lagrima or a
> short Chilesotti piece which they had been striving to
> master for the entire semester (or longer).  They
> could just about struggle through a major scale doing
> triplets at MM=60.  The bowed string players would
> take up the whole 20 minute exam time, while my
> students would be done in 5.  Happily, things have
> improved dramatically since then and standards have
> been raised, but I wonder what the other teachers
> thought about guitar.
>
>> She just started on
>> piano and was
>> disappointed with her son's result, as she's already
>> doing much better after
>> the few lessons she's had. No wonder, try playing
>> the opening of Fuer Elise
>> without piano lessons, my bet is you'll do fine. Try
>> to do the same on a
>> guitar, my bet is that it'll take several years to
>> come anywhere near the
>> percieved perfection and easy of your first try on
>> piano.
>
> Frederick Noad talks about this same point in the
> preface to his "Solo Guitar Playing, vol. II" book.  I
> was so glad when I read it the first time.  I wish he
> would have included it in volume one so that more
> beginners would read it.  Very encouraging.
>
>
> Chris - Once learned an entire two-minute Bach
> invention on piano, but couldn't do it today if you
> held a gun to my head.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Of course, piano music will be much more complicated
>> for the advanced
>> student, so by that time it's a matter of different
>> areas of difficulty.
>> And, obviously, the real test of mastering an
>> instrument is being able to
>> express yourself musically on it, not to play the
>> difficult pieces
>> technically well, but that's not the argument here.
>>
>> David - cannot play beyond the opening phrase of
>> Fuer Elise on piano
>>
>>
>> ****************************
>> David van Ooijen
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> www.davidvanooijen.nl
>> ****************************
>>
>>
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