Well, the lute is the symbol of domestic happiness in the
renaissance/baroque symbolism, and the donkey could possibly signify
virility.
RT
"Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
That was not the only lute-donkey relationship on record. Let's not forget
this:
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm144.html
Beautiful, didn't know it. Any idea how come this steady connection
between donkeys and lutes?
--
Best,
Mathias
> the memory of what a lute might be, is especially vivid in the town
> where I live because of a famous tale bearing the town's name in it,
> that you will possibly know. The town is Bremen, and I'm speaking of the
> Bremen Town Musicians (Bremer Stadtmusikanten), i. e. a donkey, a dog, a
> cat and a cock. Remember the instrument that the donkey plays? Yepp,
> correct, that's it. >B)
>
> In its established form, the tale was collected by Bros. Grimm, at a
> time when what are now considered HIP lutes were no more played.
> Instead, those ineffable, *coughs*, wandervogels were what people had in
> minds when they said "lute", because those were widely played.
> --
> Best wishes,
>
> Mathias
>
> "Luca Manassero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>> Hi Mathias,
>>
>> I love this anwer...
>>
>> Last year I went to the Fondazione Querini Stampalia in Venice with my
>> lute and group of boys asked me what I had in my case with that
>> strange
>> shape. I said: "A renaissance lute". After a second I heard one of that
>> group whispering to somebody else "must be a wind instrument..."
>> I often experience that in Italy, especially in the so-called "art
>> cities" (Città d'arte) you lute pictures in every church, LOTS of them.
>> But nobody knwos what a lute is, anymore. In Germany, maybe thanks to
>> your Wandervoegel, if somedody asks you what you carry in your case and
>> you happen to answer "a lute", well, most of the time people knows.
>>
>> So sometimes it's better to let a "not so precise" simulation of an
>> instrument to survive, instead of being correctly purist, but have 100
>> people in the whole country informed the lute...
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Luca
>>
>>
>> Mathias Rösel on 28-10-2007 14:21 wrote:
>> > "Joshua E. Horn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>> >
>> >> How common are six string lutes like this one?:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/Kay/lute12.jpg
>> >>
>> >
>> > Most members of the HIP community do not consider that instrument a
>> > lute. I'm notorious enough to dissent, so may I put it short.
>> > Yes, that kind of lute is widespread outside the HIP comm, e. g.
>> > where
>> > I
>> > live (Germany), and it is often heard in public at reenactment
>> > occasions
>> > and revival-medieval market places. There are even theorboed types
>> > (four
>> > or six extra bass strings), but not as widespread as the 6str type.
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