hey, some times ago i found a lute playing donkey in an antiquarian book: Rabener: Satiren, 1754. IAIAIAIAI see it on my flickr-page: http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ wolfgang -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: 29 Oct 2007 12:43 GMT > Von: "Mathias Rösel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: "Lutelist" <[email protected]> > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: How Common
> "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > That was not the only lute-donkey relationship on record. Let's not > forget > > this: > > http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm144.html > > Beautiful, didn't know it. Any idea how come this steady connection > between donkeys and lutes? > -- > Best, > > Mathias > > > > > the memory of what a lute might be, is especially vivid in the town > > > where I live because of a famous tale bearing the town's name in it, > > > that you will possibly know. The town is Bremen, and I'm speaking of > the > > > Bremen Town Musicians (Bremer Stadtmusikanten), i. e. a donkey, a dog, > a > > > cat and a cock. Remember the instrument that the donkey plays? Yepp, > > > correct, that's it. >B) > > > > > > In its established form, the tale was collected by Bros. Grimm, at a > > > time when what are now considered HIP lutes were no more played. > > > Instead, those ineffable, *coughs*, wandervogels were what people had > in > > > minds when they said "lute", because those were widely played. > > > -- > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Mathias > > > > > > "Luca Manassero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > >> Hi Mathias, > > >> > > >> I love this anwer... > > >> > > >> Last year I went to the Fondazione Querini Stampalia in Venice with > my > > >> lute and group of boys asked me what I had in my case with that > strange > > >> shape. I said: "A renaissance lute". After a second I heard one of > that > > >> group whispering to somebody else "must be a wind instrument..." > > >> I often experience that in Italy, especially in the so-called "art > > >> cities" (Città d'arte) you lute pictures in every church, LOTS of > them. > > >> But nobody knwos what a lute is, anymore. In Germany, maybe thanks to > > >> your Wandervoegel, if somedody asks you what you carry in your case > and > > >> you happen to answer "a lute", well, most of the time people knows. > > >> > > >> So sometimes it's better to let a "not so precise" simulation of an > > >> instrument to survive, instead of being correctly purist, but have > 100 > > >> people in the whole country informed the lute... > > >> > > >> Ciao, > > >> > > >> Luca > > >> > > >> > > >> Mathias Rösel on 28-10-2007 14:21 wrote: > > >> > "Joshua E. Horn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > >> > > > >> >> How common are six string lutes like this one?: > > >> >> > > >> >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/Kay/lute12.jpg > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > Most members of the HIP community do not consider that instrument a > > >> > lute. I'm notorious enough to dissent, so may I put it short. > > >> > Yes, that kind of lute is widespread outside the HIP comm, e. g. > where > > >> > I > > >> > live (Germany), and it is often heard in public at reenactment > > >> > occasions > > >> > and revival-medieval market places. There are even theorboed types > > >> > (four > > >> > or six extra bass strings), but not as widespread as the 6str type. > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
