Dear Peter and All
I am indeed interested. Your photos are excellent, and I very much
enjoyed the discussion of the Rauwolf, by Michael Lowe, Stephen
Gottlieb, and David Munro, at the Lute society, as well as Jakob
Lindberg's performance afterwards. I must congratulate you on your
work, and I envy you having become so close to that lute, perhaps
having played it? and being able to discuss it with Jakob. I hope,
may be, some more photos can be put-up on the web some time.
Of course I read the the Lute News N=B0 83, and could not find the
photos announced by David Munro, but he kindly gave me the link,
which I forwarded to everyone on the list.
Regards
Anthony
To any one interested about lute barrings
Fan-Barring on the Rauwolf :
Indeed, I wrote a rather long report on the Rauwolf, for the French
lute list (this question may not interst you, if not I appologize,
for adding it here).
One thing that surprised many, was the fact that Michael Lowe could
find no trace of J-barring on this lute, and therefore presumed that
the fan-barring was original, and from around 1590. See your photo, I
presume, at
http://www.pbase.com/rauwolf/image/71691186
or
http://tinyurl.com/yulvas
This could make the Rauwolf one of the first to have full fan-barring
(although so many lutes have been destroyed, how can we be sure).
Here for example is an archlute soundboard on an
Archiluth / E.546 / Koch, Christoph / VENISE / ITALIE / EUROPE / 1654
http://tinyurl.com/2ruqy3
This would, however, slightly put in question the account by David
Vanedwards, at
http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/history4.htm
http://tinyurl.com/23p7mu
of a progressive change from J-barring to fan barring : "Internally,
the barring structure behind the bridge was altered by these makers.
Starting with an increase in the number of little treble-side fan
bars, finally the characteristic J bar on the bass side of the
renaissance lutes was removed and various kinds of fan-barring were
introduced right across this area of the soundboard. These seem to
have the effect of increasing the bass response."
What I mean is that it may not have been so progressive, if one
already appeared in 1590, and the lutes described in the lute history
Part IV in which fan barring is discussed are after 1700.
The idea possibly "implied", by David Van Edwards, is also that fan
barring is part of a same process of research into the bass register
that we find in the process of adding lower diapasons (from 11c to
13c), both features would allow the musician to "plumb" the depths of
the lower register.
(French Baroque musicians being more involved in bringing out the mid
register, would have remained with J-barring).
However, this lute, may have had Fan-barring while it was still a 7
course or 8 course Renaissance lute. This does not of course
necessarily, mean that the fan-barring was not there to help the bass
register, but a word from Jakob, and another from Wolgang Emmerich
(lutemaker), also suggests that sustain + clarity is what can be
obtained by fan barring on a fuller bodied lute, such as the Rauwolf,
or a large Railich:
In the LSA Quarterly May 2007, p;8, Jakob Lindberg says that the
Rauwolf two contradictory characteristics, clarity and sustain, <<this
has exactly what I want. It has that clarity but also sustain, which
is amazing >>
At the time,of the Rauwolf conferences, I was also discussing the
question of Fan-barring and J-barring with the lute maker Wolfgang
Emmerich, who has studied a number of Railich (which look like
distant cousins of the Rauwolf).
He agreed that
"... generally I would suggest a j-bar both for 10c and 11c lutes or
both in one (for 10c music and 11c French Baroque music ).
On the other hand -for example my first copy of the Raillich 1669 -
was fantastic for the same purpose (with fan-barring). What suited
this kind of music so well was the direct speaking and almost no
echo of the Railich. In this case also the fan-barring works. With
this model I would recommend (against the rule! ) fan-barring as
better."
Regards
Anthony
Le 16 nov. 07 =E0 05:45, Peter Oljelund a ecrit :
> Dear All intrested
>
> I find these pages with the photographs of the Rauwolf lute really
> exciting. I am the one who has taken the photos of the seal and
> the details of the lute here at home in our kitchen outside
> Stockholm and had also the priviligie to actually have this
> instrument in my knees. Just the view and feeling of this lute
> lying at the kitchen table in our home was really exciting. I
> really hope there will be discoveries in the future regarding this
> seal. I tried to do a research some years ago to find out but
> failed...it seems to me though that it maybe has a german
> orign..maybe South germany somewhere...
>
> Peter Oljelund, webmaster and Jakob Lindberg's friend
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.peteroljelund.se
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 070 403 41 48
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:56:13 +0100
> > To: [email protected]
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [LUTE] Rauwolf/Munro
> >
> > Dear Lutists
> > For those who read the Lute News N=B0 83 and saw that David Munro on
> > page 15, announced some colour photos of the Rauwolf during and
> after
> > restoration on a web site. The address was in fact not exactly the
> > one given, but http://www.pBase.com/rauwolf or http://tinyurl.com/
> > 3awvrz.
> > Regards
> > Anthony
> >
> >
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
> > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
>
> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger
--
