--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Kenneth M Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Kenneth M Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MED-LUTE] dishonest lute maker To: "Peter Milligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 8:36 AM
--- On Tue, 6/24/08, Peter Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Peter Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MED-LUTE] dishonest lute maker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:14 AM I ordered a student lute online from Giuseppe Tumiati in the spring of 2002. I paid in full with a credit card and he promised a four week delivery time. I have not recieved it to this day and he stopped answering my e-mails many many years ago. I will never get my money back, but I want to warn anybody that is thinking of doing buisness with him. Peter Milligan -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html I have 2 lutes made by him and I was going to try a baroque guitar, vihuela, archlute and theorboe but I went permanently bankrupt. I was paying him on installments. I never got any opinion on his lutes from anybody credible but I did receive the lutes in playable condition. You have protection with paypal as well as with your credit card company but I don't know how long the limitation time is for them as I haven't ordered anything lately. Using paypal you have a limit on the number of claims you can make against people but I used my paypal rights on a few occassions inorder to get satisfaction and I don't know for sure if it was my paranoia or the other people. On one occassion the website of someone I had to file a complaint against for a fish lamp was shut down after I ordered so I filed complaint and the company sent me a discouraging correspondence, but I did receive the goods. In this case you would be going from paypal in the country you live in and they would contact paypal in Italy. Paypal will refund your money if someone doesn't send you what you paid for using a credit card or bank account and many vendors want a paypal logo on their site as it is more convenient for their customers. I am no professional musician(an uneducated buffoon actually), but I only purchased his very cheapest student lutes so I know nothing except that they are playable: one sounds good and has lacquer on it and the other has no lacquer on it and sounds dead. I had another problem with an EMS lute I received on christmas day broken, which I just got fixed after 12 years passed; I should have sent it right back to EMS, but I didn't know how to ship internationally(it might have been either a freight claim or they could have remedied the situation in some other way). I was always not well off so I looked for the cheapest and for many years to come I will be looking at the new cheap theorboe(bass lute) that EMS has for 949.95 pounds as well as surfing the internet for the cheapest instruments I can find in hopes that the paltry salary I might receive from any menial labor job could fulfill my desire to procure these beautiful instruments. My intention is not to sully(stand one way or the other on) anybody's reputation as I will be at the mercy of whomever I choose to buy from, but I thought I had something to share with you and now it seems I need to delete it as it should have been a private matter. the poor people -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
