On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Rob MacKillop wrote: > Peter, there is nothing holy about that bass line.
Thanks, I suspected as much, but it's good to hear it confirmed. I am still curious about what that infamous chord should be if one pretends that the bass line is given. After all, I am a theoretical physicist and hypotheticals are the air I breathe. My admittedly totally inadequate understanding, based mostly on what Nigel North has to say about continuo playing, is that a 6/4 chord does not agree with what would have been expected in the first part of the 17th century, a period derived from my instrument not necessarily the tune itself. I am also a practical person, if I can "steal" without modification, that is a lot less work. From that point of view, changing the middle voices is easier than changing the bass line, and then the question is should I change anything at all? > Here is a link to an mp3 of the cittern version in the Robert Edwards > Commonplace Book, Dundee c.1650 > http://cittern.theaterofmusic.com/audio/index.html and there is a link > on the same page to the tablature (in diatonic tuning). I had already found your cittern tablature and mp3; and I like to take the opportunity to thank you for your generosity in posting all this marvelous music on your web sites (e.g. http://www.songoftherose.co.uk/); I marvel at the beauty of your playing. Wayne drew my attention to yet another version of this tune. It's from in the Balcarres ms (http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tablature.cgi?Balcarres/031_Joy.pdf) All of this tablature sounds really interesting with Renaissance tuning, which is all I have. {Sigh!} Peter. > > Rob MacKillop > > 2009/1/27 Peter Nightingale <[email protected]> > >> Dear All, >> >> I am in the process of transcribing a version of "Joy to the Person" for >> archlute. This link points to what I am working from: >> http://www.phys.uri.edu/~nigh/Joy/joy_to.pdf >> >> I guess the only original part is the melody and that all the rest was >> written by Steven Hendricks, whoever that may be. I have a problem with >> the A minor cord at the beginning of the penultimate measure of the second >> system. Originally, I had that as an E on the 8th course together with an >> open third course a, but I do not like the sound of that, and that is >> where my wild speculation starts. >> >> The game I think I should play is that I treat Hendrick's (?) bass line >> as holy, apart from octave liberties. If one were to play a realization >> of that bass line, I do not think one would play an A minor chord in >> second inversion on the first beat of measure 7, but possibly a first >> inversion C major chord would be OK given the stepwise motion of the bass. >> (This seems to have the blessing of Coprario, Simpson, Locke and Mace, >> which beats a blessing of the the Holy Trinity by one.) >> >> So far, this is what I have in tab: >> http://www.phys.uri.edu/~nigh/Joy/joytab.pdf >> >> Obviously, I am way out of my physics depth here, so please straighten me >> out. >> >> Thanks, >> Peter. >> >> the next auto-quote is: >> In violence we forget who we are. >> (Mary McCarthy) >> /\/\ >> Peter Nightingale Telephone (401) 874-5882 >> Department of Physics, East Hall Fax (401) 874-2380 >> University of Rhode Island Kingston, RI 02881 >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > the next auto-quote is: The peace I am thinking of is the dance of an open mind when it engages an equally open one. (Toni Morrisson) /\/\ Peter Nightingale Telephone (401) 874-5882 Department of Physics, East Hall Fax (401) 874-2380 University of Rhode Island Kingston, RI 02881
