On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Ron Andrico wrote: > Peter: > I agree with Rob. The entirely serviceable harmonization you are > working from is the work of Kenneth Elliott, editor of _Music of > Scotland 1500-1700_, from the Musica Britannica series, and originally > set as a keyboard accompaniment to the orphan melody.
Thanks! Now at least I know where Hendricks got his inspiration. As I just explained to Rob, I still have a theoretical question. In addition to the fact that my ears tell me that something ain't right, but I a ready to fix my ears if so instructed by those who know more than I do. > The cittern setting offers sparse alternatives but so does the lute > setting from the Balcarres ms. I've always loved this melody but the > text becomes tiresome after a few stanzas of monumental self-pity. Yes, I agree; I know about the three stanzas, the ones the Baltimore Consort have one their CD. They seem to come from From "The Roxburghe Ballads" edited by Charles Hindley. I was considering adding the third one of those, but even that may already be pushing it, unless I add a coffee break of sorts. Thanks again, Peter. > Good luck. > Best wishes, > Ron Andrico > www.mignarda.com > > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:04:58 +0000 > > To: [email protected] > > CC: [email protected] > > From: [email protected] > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Fun with Joy > > > > Peter, there is nothing holy about that bass line. Here is a link to > an > > mp3 of the cittern version in the Robert Edwards Commonplace Book, > > Dundee c.1650 [1]http://cittern.theaterofmusic.com/audio/index.html > and > > there is a link on the same page to the tablature (in diatonic > tuning). > > > > > > > > Rob MacKillop > > > > 2009/1/27 Peter Nightingale <[2][email protected]> > > > > Dear All, > > I am in the process of transcribing a version of "Joy to the Person" > > for > > archlute. This link points to what I am working from: > > [3]http://www.phys.uri.edu/~nigh/Joy/joy_to.pdf > > I guess the only original part is the melody and that all the rest > > was > > written by Steven Hendricks, whoever that may be. I have a problem > > with > > the A minor cord at the beginning of the penultimate measure of the > > second > > system. Originally, I had that as an E on the 8th course together > > with an > > open third course a, but I do not like the sound of that, and that > > is > > where my wild speculation starts. > > The game I think I should play is that I treat Hendrick's (?) bass > > line > > as holy, apart from octave liberties. If one were to play a > > realization > > of that bass line, I do not think one would play an A minor chord in > > second inversion on the first beat of measure 7, but possibly a > > first > > inversion C major chord would be OK given the stepwise motion of the > > bass. > > (This seems to have the blessing of Coprario, Simpson, Locke and > > Mace, > > which beats a blessing of the the Holy Trinity by one.) > > So far, this is what I have in tab: > > [4]http://www.phys.uri.edu/~nigh/Joy/joytab.pdf > > Obviously, I am way out of my physics depth here, so please > > straighten me > > out. > > Thanks, > > Peter. > > the next auto-quote is: > > In violence we forget who we are. > > (Mary McCarthy) > > /\/\ > > Peter Nightingale Telephone (401) 874-5882 > > Department of Physics, East Hall Fax (401) 874-2380 > > University of Rhode Island Kingston, RI 02881 > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > -- > > > > References > > > > 1. http://cittern.theaterofmusic.com/audio/index.html > > 2. mailto:[email protected] > > 3. http://www.phys.uri.edu/~nigh/Joy/joy_to.pdf > > 4. http://www.phys.uri.edu/~nigh/Joy/joytab.pdf > > 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail(R) goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. > [1]See how. -- > > References > > 1. > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/versatility.aspx#mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_WL_HM_versatility_121208 > the next auto-quote is: The wise man belongs to all countries, for the home of a great soul is the whole world. (Democritus) /\/\ Peter Nightingale Telephone (401) 874-5882 Department of Physics, East Hall Fax (401) 874-2380 University of Rhode Island Kingston, RI 02881
