Oh of course, in relation to thumb-in, I do realize that the Satoh
record is French Baroque, but looking at his Baroque lute records, I
think Michael Schaeffer was using thumb-in here, as well (at leat not
a strong thumb-out).
I suppose the Satoh record, being earlier, would have been made thumb-
out; and now, once again, there seems to be a move to an even
stronger thumb-out, right now (similar to the Charles Mouton
painting, rather than the supposed Jacques Gautier, one).
Anthony
Le 2 févr. 09 à 15:03, Anthony Hind a écrit :
Le 2 févr. 09 à 13:36, Edward Martin a écrit :
No, it was recorded before carbon was available. He used standard
Pyramid strings, strung in the manner in which we strung lutes
back in the 1970's. His technique was playing close to the rose,
etc.
Right, my first, rather brief contact with the lute was around
1979-1980. My teacher, Terrence Waterhouse, who was a student of
Michael Schaeffer was already using gut. He used lutes by Mattheus
Durvie that were of light construction. I suppose this was around
the moment that gut must have been reintroduced, and he (along with
Matteus) must have been a pioneer. I think I had nylon for a year,
and then moved to gut.
I recall very interesting debates among lutenists, around that
time, in the Early Music magazine, about whether light lutes and
gut stringing and no nails was the way to go. Some arguing that in
the interest of consideration for the public, that louder
instruments and stringing was to be preferred, better suited to the
acoustics of the modern auditorium.
Photos on the Dowland 1981 LP set, show that three (possibly four)
of five players seem to be using thumb-in.
On this record Bailes is using two lutes by Matteus Durvie, and the
notes explicitly say that "he plays without nails and where
possible with original fingering, on lutes which are lightly
constructed and in the style of the old masters"
He is the only one of the five for which this is specifically
stated, si it must still have seemed quite new as an approach at
that time.
Yes, I forgot that gut stringing, came in around the 80s, while
thumb-in (which Terry used) was reintroduced (under the influence
of Michael Schaeffer) a little earlier, I think.
Unfortunately, both T. Waterhouse and M. Durvie abandonned the lute
scene probably before the 90s.
Anthony
The LP's (it is a 2-record set) were done years ago, before people
were recording in gut.
ed
I will try to find this LP set.
Is Satoh already playing on gut at that time? I think David said
that
at one time he was playing on carbon? I assume he was playing nearer
the rose, and was using higher tension strings than he know uses.
Do you prefer his high tension sound over his present lower tension
stringing. I am not being polemcal, just wondering.
Best wishes
Anthony
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