On Fri, Jun 26, 2009, Oskar De Mari <[email protected]> said:


>    isn't the Baeir string-density calculator just his interpretation? 

never used it, so cant speak to that from experience.  The formulae
involved are well known, but require information about physical
property(s) of the strings which are not always easy to find or guess at;
even knowing what the material is can be a challenge, which steel alloy is
that? how was it tempered?  Rose iron strings, what alloy? tempered after
drawing?  Malcom Rose will tell you, but the piano repair guy you sing
with in choir who does harpsichords on the side and has some spare string
he sold you a couple lenghs of cant recall where he got it from, so doesnt
know.  Lord only knows what to use for the silver wire you drew yourself
from stock left over from jewelry making two decades ago.

The calculators give you a reasonable guess, they are NOT prescriptive.

> If our lute's bridge can take the increased tension

and theres the rub.  The maker can take a spare rib, a spare length of top
material, glue em up and put them on the test fixture to run some possibly
destructive tension tests.  You have one instrument you DONT want to test
to that extreme; and it is difficult to measure string deflection force on
a live instrument; so you need to consider the change in sound the string
has when its tension is raised high enough to test the youngs modulus (ie,
that point at which its deformation becomes inelastic).

> isn't it possible to string at a given pitch, but with thicker 
> strings than the string calculator suggests for that pitch? 

yes.  but the harmonic series and sound formants produced will be subtly
different, you might or might not like the difference (flamenco vs
classical vs folk).  Almost all of us on this list have some experience
with guitars before taking up the lute, we are accustomed to having to
choose low, medium, high tension string sets.  If you patronize NRI for
wire strings you have similar range of choices, further limited by the
fact that they primarily sell to harpsichord enthusiasts and stock sizes
suited for that market (perfectly reasonable, want them staying in
business after all)  

Not entirely certain of this, but I suspect that better quality
instruments have less flexibility in tension; the factory built instrument
has a design that is tolerant of imperfections at all stages of
manufacture (this is good engineering practice when in mass production,
probably trades off extra mass against extra gluing surface for the
bridge; the increased margin of safety tolerates a higher tension
stringing, but may also shorten the life of the instrument by deforming
the neck or overwhelming the top braceing.
-- 
Dana Emery




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