Good grief,

I never really looked at it from that point of view. Do you think
Segovia's disability ( ?missing fingers )may have jaundiced his opinion
on the type of music he chose to play/promote? Rather than just a
dislike.

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Eugene C. Braig IV
Sent: 14 July 2009 21:35
To: [email protected]
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Andres Segovia

Not only within the US.  Almost all things guitar that Segovia did not
choose to champion were neglected in Segovia's shadow; decades of what
guitarists knew of guitar were filtered through Segovia's personal
tastes.
The whole of substantial bodies of baroque and post-Sor romantic
repertoire
were almost totally forgotten until recently.  This not only involved
(sometimes insipid) US composers (like the Bickfords, Foden, Holland,
etc.)
but European romantics (like Mertz, Regondi, Zani di Ferranti, etc.)
Evidently, Segovia didn't like (or couldn't play) dedicated baroque and
romantic compositions for guitar (the latter often overtly virtuosic for
no
better reason than being overtly virtuosic), so he entirely invented
baroque
and romantic repertoires through transcription of music by composers he
considered to be great (and that didn't necessarily involve the
techniques
that had developed around those eras guitars).

He also cast his shadow upon the instruments themselves.  Thriving
non-Spanish, quite "classical" schools of guitar making in the US
(typified
by the gut-strung guitars of Martin, etc.), Italy, Germany, etc. were
all
Iberified in part thanks to Segovia's popularity.  Even Hauser built
guitars
that were a natural extension of the work of Germanic luthiers like
Stauffer
and Scherzer.  Such things were largely neglected once Segovia
championed
Hauser's more Spanish-like models.  Perhaps the most obvious example,
early
in the 19th c., all the world's "classical" guitars had moved away from
tie-block bridges to fixing strings through the soundboard with
pins...except in Spain.  Note the most readily accepted paradigm of
"classical" guitar bridge in the world after Segovia.

Of course, this is all a little simplified, but the point remains:
Segovia's
massive popularity certainly left a mark on plucky art music, but not
all of
it was positive.

Eugene

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Christopher Stetson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:58 PM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Andres Segovia
> 
>    Hi, all,
> 
>    Actually, in the little bit I watched, the maestro was advising his
>    student to avoid imitating the lute on the guitar.  Perhaps that
was
>    your point, Gert?  If my historical knowledge is correct, far from
>    trying to revive ancient styles (as distinct from ancient music),
>    wasn't Segovia actively trying to reform and modernize guitar
>    technique?
> 
> 
> 
>    While, as has been said, he was an impressive musician, I'm no
>    particular fan of Segovia.  His USA visit of 1929 effectively
brought
>    an indigenous, if sometimes insipid, American school of guitar
>    composition to an abrupt end.  (Well, OK, he had some help from
Thomas
>    Edison and Duke Ellington.)
> 
> 
> 
>    Best to all, and keep playing.
> 
>    Chris.
>    >>> <[email protected]> 07/14/09 6:55 AM >>>
>    Well, not such a good imitation, I think. But he was a wonderful
>    guitarist and musician.
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