Hello,

   A

   I can't believe your question.A  That's the most ridiculous thinking.

   A

   With your thinking, then why are paintings so expensive? is it
   materials? is it labour?A A  What about a Mercedes Benz versus a
   Hyundai made in Korea? is that labour? is that materials? is that
   engineering? is that quality control?A  Come on man, wake up and smell
   the coffee.A

   A

   Yes a violin can be had cheaply, and no self respecting violinist will
   play ona 300$ violin.A A Its easier to make than a lute, has more
   market share, more demand, etc.A  A Craftsmanship, difficulty in making
   the instrument, research in historical construction, demand, market
   share, etc to name a few, is what's its allA aboutA for the lute.

   A

   Pakistani lutes are cheaply made, not because they use cheap materials,
   which of course they do, but also because there is no craft involved.A
   They just glue together slabs of wood in the hope that it will be
   aligned, and playable.A  Theu are made by poorly paid factory workers,
   in very uncontrolled humidity conditions, with probably no quality
   control whatsoever.A  You can also have a very poorly made Moroccan Oud
   for cheap, and very expensive ones as well...even though the market for
   Oud's in the world ( mostly in the middle east )is certainly greater
   than the market for Renaissance lutes in the entire World.

   A

   Bruno Cognyl-Fournier

   lutenist and amateur builder...

   On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Seth Appel <[1][email protected]>
   wrote:

     A  So the thread about student lutes and costs has got my brain
     working...
     A  and let me state right away that by profession I am a business
     man and
     A  not am musician.
     A  Why does a lute cost as much as it does?
     A  Is it materials?
     A  Labor?
     A  A price premium for know-how?
     A  Are the Pakistani lutes cheap (in both the good and bad sense)
     because
     A  they are using poor materials, or is it because the craftspeople
     simple
     A  don't know how to make them better? A Could an accomplished
     luthier go
     A  to Pakistan and work with them for a month and enable them to
     start
     A  producing truly good lutes at the same price?
     A  Or would this transformation take years of education and
     training?
     A  I wouldn't expect the Pakistani factory to produce master peices,
     but,
     A  as noted earlier, if someone can produce passable violins at
     $300, and
     A  lord knows there are plenty of cheap but OK guitars around, it
     escapes
     A  me why there are not cheap but OK lutes in the marketplace.
     A  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:18 PM, marius david cruceru
     A  <[1][2][email protected]> wrote:
     A  A  Hello, Luther,
     A  A  My suggestion is to contact mister Lorinczi. He is living in
     A  A  Romania, in Tg. Mures.
     A  A  He made my lute, A A VEnere, 8, a beautiful instrument,
     A  A  contact me to give you his email address to negociate the
     price.
     A  A  Would you like to have a REnnassaince Lute or a Baroque?
     A  A  Let me know if you are interested.
     A  A  best regards
     A  A  marius david cruceru
     A  A  romania
     A  A  [2][3][email protected] wrote:
     A  A  As Chris said, don't give up Luther. A I found two very nice
     A  instruments
     A  A  on Wayne's list at good prices (I have an instrument on order
     from
     A  Dan
     A  A  Larson). A  But before I found those instruments, I did a lot
     of
     A  A  practicing on a guitar using lute technique as best I could
     from some
     A  A  investigation. A Put on a light set of strings and give it a
     try. A I
     A  A  didn't use a capo, but you could to shorten the string length
     and
     A  bring
     A  A  the pitch up g'. A This would at least get you going in a lute
     A  direction
     A  A  until you find an affordable instrument.
     A  A  Ned
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