MP4 has been around since 2001.
Basically, all these compression schemes sound fine at high bit 
rates, and at low bit rates some of them sound less worse.
dt

At 08:23 PM 10/11/2009, you wrote:
>    From: Rob MacKillop [1][email protected]
>      I haven't quite reached a million hits (wow!) but the number of plays
>      far outnumbers the number of CDs I've sold, or mp3 files downloaded.
>    It
>      is the primary medium for reaching people. For those of us interested
>      in sound, this is not a good thing as the sound tends to be poor, and
>      usually played on crap computer speakers.
>
>    Hello Rob,
>
>    Take a look at this link
>    [2]http://prorec.com/Articles/tabid/109/EntryId/343/Over-the-Limit-2-Th
>    e-End-of-the-Loudness-War.aspx
>    to an article by Rip Rowan of prorec fame.
>
>    In the comments section at the bottom, mp3-is-not-the-answer mentions a
>    hope for a new mp4 format that will be standardized and have much
>    better and consistant sound quality than the current non-standardized
>    mp3s.
>
>    Computer speakers themselves do tend to be low-end.  But don't a lot
>    people download the music from the computer to play it on their mp3
>    players through decent headphones/earbuds?
>
>    You might like to check out the archives to the Linux Audio Users group
>    or join their mailing list to find out some of the interesting things
>    going on in the world of music played on and made by computers.
>    [3]http://lad.linuxaudio.org/subscribe/lau.html
>
>    Best,
>    "The Other" Stephen Stubbs.
>
>    --
>
>References
>
>    1. mailto:[email protected]
>    2. 
> http://prorec.com/Articles/tabid/109/EntryId/343/Over-the-Limit-2-The-End-of-the-Loudness-War.aspx
>    3. http://lad.linuxaudio.org/subscribe/lau.html
>
>
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