My point is I don't think he's using his site at all. I think it's just there, leftover from a time that he was more actively building. However, I don't know and am not interested in putting much time into pursuing further. He delivered mine years ago.
Eugene > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of vance wood > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:46 AM > To: Lute List > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria > > I was not referring to intentional fraud but if he is using the site to > make > contacts, contract instruments, and take payment for the same but knows > that > he is either unable or unwilling to deliver a finished product, then it is > fraud none the less. If the contact numbers on his site are active, for > the > purpose of generating business, but he becomes un-reachable when questions > arise as to when an instrument will be completed it is fraud. It passes > the > duck test: If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck it's a duck. > If > he is not resolving old issues where he has an obligation with funds > received for work not completed but is accepting new business it may not > be > fraud but a good prosecutor could make that argument stick. If at any > time > he has used the mail system in his communications then he has an even > deeper > problem. If someone knows this man they should let him know that if he > does > not make an effort to resolve some of these issues one or more of these > unrequited clients could cause him a great deal of grief. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:03 AM > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria > > > > > >> I don't know, but I really don't think your speculation of active, > >> deliberate fraud is accurate Vance. > > > > I took another look at the website, it lists two forms of contact, > > telephone, and email. there is no information about terms or any means > to > > detail an order. Yes, prices are listed, being several years stale they > > become more and more enticing. > > > > I dont consider the website to be indicitive of fraud in any way. > > > > I also noted something else while in google. LF has a day job. Hanover > > Brazil is an import/export company with offices in the US and Brazil. > one > > of several products they handle is CITES-blessed Rosewood (cut before > the > > ban in 1991). LF is pictured (holding a vihuela) and mentioned as a > > staffmember. > > > > Perhaps an exchange could be worked out for those willing to take > Rosewood > > in trade? I note that the company has a US office where some wood is > > kept. > > > > -- > > Dana Emery > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > signature database 4690 (20091215) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4690 (20091215) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > >
