Dear Matthias and All,

   I highly appreciate your discussion remarks on the liuto forte (and in
   general). Your critical remarks may be quite adequate, but for now they
   will not change my love of the instrument. I keep open-minded, and am
   particularly keen to directly compare the sound with lutes. I have to
   admit that I have not much compared it to "real" lutes, only to my own
   quite cheap renaissance lute (600 GBP from Early Music Shop in Saltaire
   UK on the advice of my then lute teacher how considered it good enough
   for a start), and a better Renaissance lute on occasion.

   I am an amateur, that's maybe the first thing to say. Having played the
   guitar for long I got interested in the lute because I listened to
   Dowland and other Renaissance music on the lute and loved the intense
   and rough sound much more than my (by the way: very good) guitar's,
   then studied the lute for a while (with my fingernails cut).

   Coming across the liuto forte I realized that, first of all, it
   is extremely flexible in sound. It can actually sound more lute-like
   and more guitar-like, dependent on where and how you pluck it (I would
   be interested if the people who say the liuto forte simply sounds like
   a guitar and that's it would insist on this impression in light of
   having realized that flexibility, which may need some practice and
   experimentation). I felt that if I plucked with fingerpads (thumb
   inside technique) above the rosette, the sound was quite lute-like, but
   more singing and sustaining than on my renaissance lute. I immediately
   loved that sound with renaissance pieces (more than when played on on
   the guitar, and more than when played on the "real" lute :-). As I have
   no ambition to be particularly original I went (and go) with my naive
   impression and love. Apart from this the liuto forte was easier to play
   - and I did not need to cut my finger nails, as simply turning the
   fingers adequately made possible to use finger pads. To love this sound
   is surely a matter of taste - and I am of course always open to my
   taste being better eductated... :-)

   Sor etc. also sounded good with this finger pad technique (modified it
   a little). Thus, more generally, sounding good with finger pads (in
   contrast to my classical guitar) is one of the really good things with
   the liuto forte. .

   Of course you can play it with finger nails as well...

   So, if I visit friends etc. and want to take only one instrument with
   me, I often choose the liuto forte, as I can

   - play Renaissance pieces with a quite lute-like sound, with finger
   pads or fingernails (even alternate according to my liking)

   - can play it as a normal guitar as well if I like, (piano, but and it
   can also be really loud if this should be of importance)

   - could play it as a 9-string guitar (if I could resp. had finally
   discovered how to get suitable sheet music)

   There's obviously no reason to "defend" the liuto forte, but for my
   amateurish purposes, I love it, first, because of its flexibility, and
   also because of the finger pad sound with renaissance etc. pieces.

   Warm regards, and thanks for the great experience with your
   contributions

   Franz

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