Hi, all,

   To answer (sort of) Suzanne's original question:  personally, one of my
   favorite things to do with Francesco is to play the same fantasia or
   ricercar with very different moods.  Ness 40, for example, is quite a
   different piece played with a steady, sprightly feel or with a slower,
   more meditative feel and more rhythmic variation.  I've even been known
   to play it twice, first one way, then the other.  Because, hey, they're
   fantasies!



   In re:  slower tempi with duets:  I've been finding that with some
   guitar music I've been working on with a friend.  They're duets from
   about 1900, and consciously constructed so the Guitar 1 part can be
   played as a solo but Guitar 2 is actually "playing something," not just
   chording along.  I really have to slow them down for the duo
   arrangement, I think because of the thicker texture, and to let the
   interplay come out.
   [1]http://meantone.com/MusicDownloads/WalterJacobs/WalterJacobs.html



   A related question for the more well-read list members:  do we have any
   indication that "they" actually tried to play solo settings (or what we
   assume to be solo settings) of dance forms at the tempi they would have
   been played for dancing?



   In re:  caffienated jet setting:  My older brother had a theory that
   the flowering of the English Renaissance, at least in part, was brought
   about by the introduction of caffeine and nicotine into a theretofore
   mainly alcoholized culture.  Suddenly they had energy and were brimming
   with creativity!  Go figure!  I don't know enough about continental
   caffeine history to expand his theory, but my point is that caffeine is
   hardly a modern invention.



   As for jet travel, while indeed it has revolutionized travel in the
   mega-sense, in that I can leave Tokyo at 12 noon on Tuesday and arrive
   in New York at 11:00 a.m. on the same Tuesday, I don't think that
   arriving 2 hours before departure to wait in line to have my papers
   checked and my shoes x-rayed has sped up my sense of time on a
   minute-to-minute basis.



   Best to all, and keep playing (at the tempo of your choice).

   Chris.
   >>> David Tayler <[email protected]> 3/12/2010 3:54 PM >>>
   60 is a very good tactus for many of Francesco's pieces for me. But
   that is just me. Quite a few of the pieces roll along smoothly in the
   56-64 range.
   There is no reason whatsoever to to feel that one tempo is
   historically accurate.
   As for whether we live in  a caffeinated, jet set society, it seems
   pretty clear that since we don't as a general practice employ the
   "top gear" for ornamentation compared to cornetto and recorder players,
   that we can't really draw a conclusion from that unless we are fly
   more or drink more coffee and tea than they do :)
   dt
   At 10:44 AM 3/12/2010, you wrote:
   >>tempos chosen to allow the contrapuntal lines to connect --
   >>if the music is taken too slowly, it becomes disjointed as
   >>individual notes die away before the next notes continue the line.
   >
   >This betrays a rather low opinion of the modern listener's ability
   >to actually hear and follow contrapuntal lines.  I don't think
   >having a note die away before the next one in its line is heard
   >prevents one from hearing it as a continuous voice.  Just as in
   >social dialog, different voices take *turns*, not all talking at
   >once.  Its partly that gracious interaction of the lines that you
   >need the space and time to appreciate.  And at least this modern
   >listener can follow and appreciate polyphony doing that in lute
   >music without the sound being utterly continuous.
   >
   >Suzanne
   >
   >
   >
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References

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