I'm curious which mic costs $15,000. If it is any good, I'll get one! 
Or two theorbos...hmmm....

BTW, the Sennheiser MKH20s, The Schoeps MK2H and the DPA 4030 cannot 
be beat, I don't think, for lute. The go for about $1500 each.
The are microphone emulators which do a pretty good job of morphing 
one mic into another with EQ, but I don't think they can right now 
surpass the real thing.

dt




At 02:44 PM 3/16/2010, you wrote:
>    I've posted several times the processing I use, based on the
>    recommendation of my sound engineer uncle. I apply an "inverted smile"
>    EQ and if I am recording in my small office, I add a small amount of
>    reverb (if I am alone in the house and can record in the big living
>    room the reverb is not necessary). The "inverted smile" corrects for
>    inadequacies in the response of the mic. I was once recorded with a
>    $15,000 mic and that led me to believe that cheaper mic+EQ is very
>    close to the reality captured by the expensive mic and therefore that
>    the EQ isn't "cheating". In my most recent recording, using a superior
>    mic (but not in the thousands of dollars) I thought the sound was much
>    better and only the tiniest adjustment (taking down the highest and
>    lowest bands in the EQ) was needed:
>
>    [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2w15WCzoWY
>    Danny
>    (not a "lute hero" but a regular "y-tuber")
>    On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:00 PM, wikla <[2][email protected]> wrote:
>
>      Well, my new "y-tubings" of very variable quality certainly cannot
>      hide
>      anything! ;-)
>      The Zoom O3 hears everything and I play in very dry acoustics...
>      Is it really true that people "y-tubing" - and especially our "lute
>      heroes"
>      making CD's - really add artificial reverb and other machine
>      generated
>      effects to their canned performances? Perhaps that explains
>      something?
>      Just a thought... ;-)
>      Arto
>
>    On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:50:47 -0400, "Roman Turovsky"
>    <[3][email protected]> wrote:
>    > But the reverb hides the imperfections so
>    effectively..................
>    > RT
>    >
>    > ----- Original Message -----
>    > From: <[4][email protected]>
>    > To: <[5][email protected]>; <[6][email protected]>
>    > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:46 PM
>    > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Modern lute recordings
>    >
>    >
>    > Ned,
>    >
>    >    You're not alone at all.  I'm in complete agreement with you.  It
>    seems
>    > to me that the ideal place to record a lute of all instruments, is a
>    > controlled environment like a recording studio where a touch of
>    reverb
>    can
>    > be added if wanted.  The long decay of a cavernous cathedral might
>    feel
>    > good
>    > for the player, but its a very un-HIP place to find a solo lute.  I
>    would
>    > love to turn down the reverb on nearly all my recordings.
>    >
>    > Chris
>    >
>    > --- On Mon, 3/15/10, [7][email protected] <[8][email protected]> wrote:
>    >
>    >> From: [9][email protected] <[10][email protected]>
>    >> Subject: [LUTE] Modern lute recordings
>    >> To: [11][email protected]
>    >> Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 9:10 PM
>    >> Looking on youtube
>    >> for a video of the Earl of Essex Galliard the other
>    >> night, I came across one by Elizabeth
>    >> Brown. A fine player, but sounds
>    >> I never heard from a lute live. I
>    >> wondered what her recording engineer
>    >> was thinking. But then I remembered
>    >> that "her" sound was not
>    >> completely unlike what I hear on many
>    >> lute CDs, and it occurs to me
>    >> that today's recording engineers
>    >> generally have an odd concept of what
>    >> a lute should sound like.
>    >> Primarily, they seem to think it should
>    >> sound BIG and with the oodles of reverb -
>    >> as if heard from many feet
>    >> away in a large and empty
>    >> catherdral. Harmonia Mundi records Paul
>    >> O'Dette this way, as do ECM and Naxos
>    >> Nigel North, Naive Hopkinson
>    >> Smith, and (not as exaggeratedly)
>    >> Hyperion Elizabeth Kenny.
>    >>
>    >>
>    >>
>    >> Going into my vinyl collection I found
>    >> that in the past, both Nonesuch
>    >> and Astree did a much more natural job
>    >> with Paul O'Dette, Edition Open
>    >> Window is wonderful with Jurgen
>    >> Hubscher (and Alfred Gross), and Decca
>    >> always gave Joe Iadone and Chris Williams
>    >> a natural sound.
>    >>
>    >>
>    >>
>    >> So, my appeal is to recording engineers:
>    >> go into a medium size - or
>    >> even fairly large - room with a lutenist
>    >> sometime and listen to the
>    >> sound he/she produces. Then
>    >> forget recording in churches or
>    >> cathedrals and by all means leave all
>    >> electronic 'enhanements' out of
>    >> the recording chain.
>    >>
>    >>
>    >>
>    >> Am I alone in this view?
>    >>
>    >>
>    >>
>    >> Ned
>    >>
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>References
>
>    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2w15WCzoWY
>    2. mailto:[email protected]
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