Hello again, Martin.

Yes, I agree that it is neat, and also more than that... Those are my 
impressions that in Val;derrabano's duets, 3 unison arrangements do 
mimic the Holy trinity.  As for the others, the 3 at a third, 4 at a 
fourth, and five at a fith are certainly not coincidental, but very 
cleverly planned.

This kind of symmentry or symbolism is seen throughout the genius of 
the renaissance.

ed

At 03:36 PM 4/6/2010, Martin Shepherd wrote:
>Hi Ed, Ariel and All,
>
>Thanks for the correction - I was relying on my memory (foolish, I know).
>
>It always struck me as neat that there were three a third, four a 
>fourth, five a fifth apart, and of course, three in unison ("three 
>in One", the Trinity).
>
>Tone apart is good for arrangements - I've got a collection of late 
>16th canzone by Guami, Gabrieli, etc. which work well.  The good 
>thing is in homophonic sections where you want full chords you get 
>different spacings on the two lutes, which gives a rich effect.  I 
>must polish, and publish one of these days.....
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Martin
>
>Edward Martin wrote:
>>Hello, Martin,
>>
>>It is good to see your post.  I have a question... I recorded a few 
>>years ago, with Phil Rukavina, the duets of Valderrabano, all of 
>>them.  Three are in unison, three are a minor third apart, four are 
>>a forth apart, and five  are fifth apart.  I researched this the 
>>best I could, and I found no duets a tone apart.  Are you mistaken, 
>>or is there something we missed?
>>
>>With best wishes,
>>
>>ed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 06:21 AM 4/6/2010, you wrote:
>>>Hi Ed,
>>>
>>>Five of the seven Milano/Matelart duets are for tone-apart lutes.
>>>All seven are available in an edition (which also includes 
>>>versions for equal lutes) by Gordon Gregory, published by the Lute 
>>>Society (www.lutesoc.org).  It's cheap and worth having.
>>>
>>>It's also worth having the SPES facsimile of the Matelart book - 
>>>his solo fantasias are good too.
>>>
>>>The Toccata by Piccinini is for tone-apart lutes, and there are 
>>>several in Phalese, again published by the Lute Society in an 
>>>edition by Lynda Sayce.  Valderrabano also has two duets for 
>>>vihuelas a tone apart.
>>>
>>>Best wishes,
>>>
>>>Martin
>>>
>>>Ed Durbrow wrote:
>>>>    I'm looking for online sources of duets for lutes a step apart,
>>>>    particularly the Milano Matelart ones. Sarge Garbode just has one of
>>>>    them which I already have. Any other nice ones a step apart?
>>>>
>>>>    TIA
>>>>    Ed Durbrow
>>>>    Saitama, Japan
>>>>    [1][email protected]
>>>>    [2]http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
>>>>
>>>>    --
>>>>
>>>>References
>>>>
>>>>    1. mailto:[email protected]
>>>>    2. http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
>Edward Martin
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