I'm afraid you missed the principal subject in the question I asked. To
paraphrase it: what do we reasonably know about what sounds the
composer (and audience) expect to hear when the music was performed?
MH
--- On Sat, 2/7/11, Christopher Wilke <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Christopher Wilke <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: What's the point to 'historical sound'
To: [email protected], "Ron Andrico" <[email protected]>,
"Martyn Hodgson" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, 2 July, 2011, 13:12
Martyn,
Very simple answers. Composers expected money/food/lodging in
exchange for whatever music his (almost always his) patron desired.
Audiences expected to be pleased.
Chris
Christopher Wilke
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
www.christopherwilke.com
--- On Sat, 7/2/11, Martyn Hodgson <[1][email protected]>
wrote:
> From: Martyn Hodgson <[2][email protected]>
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: What's the point to 'historical sound'
> To: [3][email protected], "Ron Andrico"
<[4][email protected]>
> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 7:10 AM
>
>
> All this is no excuse to ignore what
> evidence there actually is about
> what early composers, and their
> audiences, expected.
>
> --- On Sat, 2/7/11, Ron Andrico <[5][email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> From: Ron Andrico <[6][email protected]>
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: What's the
> point to 'historical sound'
> To: [7][email protected],
> [8][email protected]
> Date: Saturday, 2 July, 2011,
> 11:55
>
> To Martyn & All:
> My point is, while we may try to
> recreate sounds of the past, we are
> constrained by the parameters of the
> present. Echoing Arto's idea,
> the
> 'truth' of what we hear is here and
> now. I would prefer to immerse
> myself in the contextual evidence and
> damn the realities of modern
> performing constraints - except I like
> playing on strings that are
> possible to tune.
> Ron Andrico
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:27:07
> +0100
> > To: [1][9][email protected]
> > From: [2][10][email protected]
> > Subject: [LUTE] What's the point
> to 'historical sound'
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron Andrico writes: 'This whole
> archlute episode brings up an
> > important point: At some point,
> we have to admit that we are not
> trying
> > to re-create an historical
> sound.'
> >
> > There are a number of
> difficulties with this view of which the
> > principal is that the original
> composer created the work with
> > particular sounds in mind (tho'
> of course this might vary so that,
> for
> > example, pieces could sometimes
> be rescored to better fit local
> > conditions). Who are we to say
> the composer was wrong?
> >
> > The whole thrust of 'period
> performance' is to try and escape from
> the
> > blinkered cavalier (self-centred)
> approach adopted in the early
> years
> > of the movement and to focus on
> trying to achieve something closer
> to
> > what the 'Old Ones' might
> actually have heard. Personally I'd draw
> the
> > line at castrati - but accidents
> can happen.......
> >
> > MH
> >
> > MH
> >
> >
> >
> >
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