Was wrong list, here goes again:

> So is there actually any reason to believe there is any connection to 
> any of the Gaultiers?

The painting is dated before van Dyck's first journey to London in 1620. It's 
not Jacques, that much is clear. Neither Denis who still was a teen at the time 
(and looked different, see 
http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/image/joconde/0002/m503604_93de2136_p.jpg). 
Before his first journey, van Dyck stayed at Antwerp. As far as I know, neither 
Ennemond nor Pierre nor Ennemond's his employer, the queen, left France before 
July 1631 (that's when Mary fled to Brussels). So it's not probable that the 
painting shows one of the four known lutenists Gaultier.

Mathias



> Or even to any musician? If the theorbo is just a "courtly symbol par 
> excellence"?
> 
> Arto
> 
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 21:50:07 +0200, Andreas Schlegel 
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > That's not Denis Gaultier!
> >
> > If it's a Gaultier, then it's Jacques.
> > see:
> >
> http://www.museodelprado.es/en/the-collection/online-gallery/on-line-
> gallery/obra/man-with-a-lute/?no_cache=1
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> > Am 07.09.2011 um 21:29 schrieb wikla:
> >
> >> Dear lute gang,
> >>
> >> has anyone analysed the famous picture by van Dyck of Denis 
> >> Gaultier,
> see
> >>
> >>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Denis_Gaultier.jpg
> >>
> >> His instrument seems to be a big theorbo. Is it? Any other info of 
> >> this very beautiful portrait?
> >>
> >> Arto




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