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I think the instrument described in Britannica is what we would call a 
12-course 'English' lute - the kind that appears in lots of paintings, usually 
played by women.  Thomas Mace (1672) simply refers to this as the lute.  He 
also says a lot about the theorbo that was popular in England at the same time 
and had stepped basses - This seems to have been smaller than the European ones 
- he only mentions the top course having to be tuned down an octave to avoid 
breaking the string, whereas the European ones normally had the top two courses 
tuned down, suggesting they were so big that even the second course couldn't 
stand at pitch without breaking.
I would speculate that it was this smaller 'English' theorbo that Playford 
(some 20 years after Mace) is talking about, but of course I can't be sure.  
One thing is certain - It is a much neglected instrument.
Bill

From: dc <[email protected]>
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2011, 7:51
Subject: [LUTE] theorbo-lute

The title page of Playford's Harmonia Sacra states that the thorough-bass 
is "for the Theorbo-Lute, Bass-Viol, Harpsichord or Organ".

Is this "theorbo-lute" an instrument such as described in Britannica: "A 
similar, smaller instrument, the theorbo-lute, or French lute, was a 
modification of the regular double-strung lute, to which were added one to 
three off-the-fingerboard courses of bass strings. There were two pegboxes, 
one angled backward. Smaller and more agile than the theorbo, the 
theorbo-lute was the favourite of the 17th-century school of French 
lutenists."

Or what we would now call an archlute? Or a theorbo?

If this was a French instrument, what was its name in French?

Thanks,

Dennis



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new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN 
style="RIGHT: auto">I think the instrument described in Britannica is what we 
would call a 12-course 'English' lute - the kind that appears in lots of 
paintings, usually played by women.&nbsp; Thomas Mace (1672) simply refers to 
this as the lute.&nbsp; He also says a lot about the theorbo that was popular 
in England&nbsp;at the same time and had stepped basses&nbsp;- This seems to 
have been smaller than the European ones - he only mentions the top course 
having to be tuned down an octave to avoid breaking the string, whereas the 
European ones normally had the top two courses tuned down, suggesting they were 
so big that even the second course couldn't stand at pitch without 
breaking.</SPAN></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">I would speculate that it 
was this smaller 'English' theorbo that Playford (some 20 years after Mace) is 
talking about, but of course I can't be sure.&nbsp; One thing is certain - It 
is a much neglected instrument.</SPAN></div>
<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Bill<VAR 
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bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, 6 November 2011, 7:51<BR><B><SPAN 
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [LUTE] 
theorbo-lute<BR></FONT><BR>The title page of Playford's Harmonia Sacra states 
that the thorough-bass <BR>is "for the Theorbo-Lute, Bass-Viol, Harpsichord or 
Organ".<BR><BR>Is this "theorbo-lute" an instrument such as described in 
Britannica: "A <BR>similar, smaller instrument, the theorbo-lute, or French
 lute, was a <BR>modification of the regular double-strung lute, to which were 
added one to <BR>three off-the-fingerboard courses of bass strings. There were 
two pegboxes, <BR>one angled backward. Smaller and more agile than the theorbo, 
the <BR>theorbo-lute was the favourite of the 17th-century school of French 
<BR>lutenists."<BR><BR>Or what we would now call an archlute? Or a 
theorbo?<BR><BR>If this was a French instrument, what was its name in 
French?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>Dennis<BR><BR><BR><BR>To get on or off this list 
see list information at<BR><A 
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