I hope i can post the link.... Separating the first "h" in "http" for a spam assassins. The shell knot:
h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zW6UIGTzGw Very much depends on the leader material, actually, how slippery the leader or the core is. I think the nail knot works better with a thin gut, and the shell knot - with synthetics. There is a plethora of wrap-around kind of knots, a fun to choose from. alexander r. On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:52:51 -0500 EUGENE BRAIG IV <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not familiar with the "shell not" outside of neck ties. Is this the knot > you'd intended, Alexander? If not, can you refer me to a diagram? > > The nail knot to which I'd referred really has a low profile for line to > line, and a bit of burned-end gut would be perfectly suited to it. Have you > ever used the nail knot in fixing leader to instrument string? If so, how > did that one work? > > Eugene > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: alexander <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, January 2, 2012 8:31 am > Subject: [LUTE] Re: ubricating Non-stretchy pegbox leaders. > To: Ron Andrico <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], [email protected] > > > I lubricate instrument nuts for living. I did try graphite (or > > lead pencil) in the past, but for the last... well, 15 or so, > > years i use a good quality bees wax, just lifting the string > > above the nut a bit and applying the wax on this little > > bit of the string. Many advantages to the method, which you > > could discover for yourselves, if tried. > > I also tie leaders to the strings for living. With gut, you > > could burn the end of the string to create a tiny ball (as done > > with the frets) and use some non-stretching, better braided or > > twisted material, it will less likely damage your pegs. It > > should be thin enough for the knot to be portable, not to > > interfere with the neighboring strings. A some sort of wrap- > > around knot (shell knot is a good one) might be the best. Yes it > > will stabilize certain things, yes, possible. But boy, it will > > look ugly. On the lute...? Plus, there is a tremendous chance > > that these leaders will resonate to your notes in the most > > unexpected ways and create some new and challenging tuning > > problems. While the usual piece of string in the peg box is > > still a good quality even round string, and if resonates, still > > harmoniously in some way, a tied leader will not so. > > Alexander r. > > > > > > > > On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:27:13 +0000 > > Ron Andrico <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I have found it necessary to tie a 'leader' > > onto unexpectedly shortened > > > strings and finding that, surprisingly, it > > does seem to stabilize > > > tuning problems. I have always used well- > > stretched bits of slightly > > > thicker-gauged used gut or fret gut, since > > it seems to find its point > > > of stability in fairly short order. Of > > course the knot makes a > > > difference and it must be fast and not catch > > on other strings or the > > > tuning problem is exacerbated. Your > > strings need to be well-ordered in > > > the pegbox or the crisscrossing will result > > in unauthorized > > > intermingling and the catching of windings, > > gimps or fibers. > > > Lubricating the nut with a pencil is > > probably the place to start > > > tacking the problem though. > > > RA > > > > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 00:49:15 -0600 > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [LUTE] Non-stretchy pegbox leaders. > > > > > > > > > > > > We had a discussion similar to this three > > years ago > > > > (Dec 7 2008). However, I'd like to revisit > > the subject with > > > > my question rephrased to focus more > > closely on my problem. > > > > > > > > Stretching of strings between the nut and > > the peg is causing > > > > me severe difficulty in tuning -- I can > > turn the peg > > > > 90 or 120 degrees with no response in the pitch. > > > > > > > > Lubricating the nut is of course a possibility. > > > > > > > > But I'd also like to try replacing the > > portion of the string > > > > between nut and peg with a leader of some > > material which > > > > (a) does not stretch, > > > > (b) can be tied securely and easily to the > > string,> > (c) will not slip on the peg, > > > > (d) will not damage anything, > > > > (e) is strong enough, and > > > > (f) is readily available. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have experience in this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list > > information at > > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute- > > admin/index.html> > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
