I was referring to the Mark Wheeler's theatrical approach to lute, with moonwalks and hosiery.
RT

----- Original Message ----- From: "William Samson" <[email protected]>
To: "Lute List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:34 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday quotes



  RE Michael Jackson - I think it's the zombie look you get from spending
  too much time in solitary practice and losing your grip on reality.
  We've all been there, I suspect.  The tricky part, though, is the dance
  moves . . .

  Bill
  From: Gary Digman <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Monday, 12 March 2012, 7:23
  Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday quotes
  The "Michael Jackson" approach? Hanging the lute over the balcony
  railing?
  Playing with one hand in a glove?
  Gary
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Roman Turovsky" <[1][email protected]>
  To: "Mark Wheeler" <[2][email protected]>; "Ron Andrico"
  <[3][email protected]>
  Cc: <[4][email protected]>
  Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:06 AM
  Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday quotes
  > Which sounds like an excuse for certain "Michael Jackson" approach to
  > Early
  > Music.
  >
  > Unrewarding, both visually and musically.
  > RT
  >
  >
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Mark Wheeler" <[5][email protected]>
  > To: "Ron Andrico" <[6][email protected]>
  > Cc: <[7][email protected]>
  > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:08 AM
  > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday quotes
  >
  >
  >> Reading this I can't help but feel that you are pressing for an
  aesthetic
  >> that is more a reaction to our modern world than one that reflects a
  >> possible 16th century cultural atmosphere....
  >>
  >> Check out this excellent article by Liz Kenny...
  >> "The uses of lute song: texts, contexts and pretexts for
  aEUR~historically
  >> informed' performance" Early Music 2008/02
  >>
  >> Here us a bit of the opening..
  >>
  >> "Our enthusiasm for printed sources has obscured other ways of
  >> approaching
  >> these songs, and has artificially divided them from the songs of the
  next
  >> generation. What looks like a perfect balance on paper may or may
  not
  >> have
  >> remained so when the songs were performed, and the seductive
  solitude
  >> evoked by a book to be kept and treasured at home may not have
  always
  >> represented composer aEUR~intentions', if indeed we can separate
  these from
  >> performer intentions. The aEUR~miniaturist aesthetic' of privacy,
  secrecy and
  >> the aEUR~esoteric' often define this repertory. aEUR~Iconographical
  >> representations of the lute in performance of instrumental or vocal
  music
  >> ... consist- ently depict a theatre of privacy and solitude ...
  apart (or
  >> distanced) from public, courtly culture.' This may have been true of
  one
  >> group of performersaEUR"the most iconogenicaEUR"but it ignores what
  others were
  >> doing in other contexts, very definitely in public."
  >>
  >> The end (with lots of interesting stuff in-between....)
  >>
  >> "Early 17th-century musicians faced a challenge which their modern
  >> descendents have no trouble recognizing: that of adjusting their
  personal
  >> creative ambitions to different sorts of audience or consumer
  demand.
  >> This
  >> is not compatible with a philosophy of one aEUR~right' or even one
  generally
  >> preferable style of modern performance based on a careful sifting of
  his-
  >> torical evidence, if the sift eliminates evidence incom- patible
  with any
  >> single interpretative thesis. Modern ideas of aEUR~public' and
  aEUR~private' are
  >> not always helpful: traces of 17th- century public practice are to
  be
  >> found in privately circulated manuscripts, while widely available
  printed
  >> books facilitated solitary music- reading. To illuminate this
  repertory
  >> from scholarly angles we need not a normative musicology but a more
  >> cheerfully disruptive one: we might then use its tools to sharpen a
  new
  >> set of interpretive skills. As Robert Spencer said aEUR~I see
  nothing
  >> upsetting in that' "
  >>
  >> All the best
  >> Mark
  >>
  >> www.pantagruel.de
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> On Mar 10, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Ron Andrico wrote:
  >>
  >>>  We have posted our Saturday quotes on performing lute songs with
  no
  >>>  gimmicks:
  >>>  [1][8]http://wp.me/p15OyV-lv
  >>>  Ron & Donna
  >>>
  >>>  --
  >>>
  >>> References
  >>>
  >>>  1. [9]http://wp.me/p15OyV-lv
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> To get on or off this list see list information at
  >>> [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >
  >
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