Well, if you can't join 'em, just beat it.
CW
Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
Music Faculty
Nazareth College, Rochester, NY
State University of New York at Geneseo
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
www.christopherwilke.com
--- On Mon, 3/12/12, Roman Turovsky <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Roman Turovsky <[email protected]>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday quotes
To: "William Samson" <[email protected]>, "Lute List"
<[email protected]>
Date: Monday, March 12, 2012, 8:35 AM
I was referring to the Mark Wheeler's theatrical approach to lute, with
moonwalks and hosiery.
RT
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Samson" <[1][email protected]>
To: "Lute List" <[2][email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:34 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday quotes
>
> RE Michael Jackson - I think it's the zombie look you get from
spending
> too much time in solitary practice and losing your grip on reality.
> We've all been there, I suspect. The tricky part, though, is the
dance
> moves . . .
>
> Bill
> From: Gary Digman <[3][email protected]>
> To: [4][email protected]
> Sent: Monday, 12 March 2012, 7:23
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday quotes
> The "Michael Jackson" approach? Hanging the lute over the balcony
> railing?
> Playing with one hand in a glove?
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roman Turovsky" <[1][5][email protected]>
> To: "Mark Wheeler" <[2][6][email protected]>; "Ron Andrico"
> <[3][7][email protected]>
> Cc: <[4][8][email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:06 AM
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday quotes
> > Which sounds like an excuse for certain "Michael Jackson"
approach to
> > Early
> > Music.
> >
> > Unrewarding, both visually and musically.
> > RT
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Wheeler" <[5][9][email protected]>
> > To: "Ron Andrico" <[6][10][email protected]>
> > Cc: <[7][11][email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:08 AM
> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday quotes
> >
> >
> >> Reading this I can't help but feel that you are pressing for an
> aesthetic
> >> that is more a reaction to our modern world than one that
reflects a
> >> possible 16th century cultural atmosphere....
> >>
> >> Check out this excellent article by Liz Kenny...
> >> "The uses of lute song: texts, contexts and pretexts for
> aEUR~historically
> >> informed' performance" Early Music 2008/02
> >>
> >> Here us a bit of the opening..
> >>
> >> "Our enthusiasm for printed sources has obscured other ways of
> >> approaching
> >> these songs, and has artificially divided them from the songs of
the
> next
> >> generation. What looks like a perfect balance on paper may or
may
> not
> >> have
> >> remained so when the songs were performed, and the seductive
> solitude
> >> evoked by a book to be kept and treasured at home may not have
> always
> >> represented composer aEUR~intentions', if indeed we can separate
> these from
> >> performer intentions. The aEUR~miniaturist aesthetic' of
privacy,
> secrecy and
> >> the aEUR~esoteric' often define this repertory.
aEUR~Iconographical
> >> representations of the lute in performance of instrumental or
vocal
> music
> >> ... consist- ently depict a theatre of privacy and solitude ...
> apart (or
> >> distanced) from public, courtly culture.' This may have been
true of
> one
> >> group of performersaEUR"the most iconogenicaEUR"but it ignores
what
> others were
> >> doing in other contexts, very definitely in public."
> >>
> >> The end (with lots of interesting stuff in-between....)
> >>
> >> "Early 17th-century musicians faced a challenge which their
modern
> >> descendents have no trouble recognizing: that of adjusting their
> personal
> >> creative ambitions to different sorts of audience or consumer
> demand.
> >> This
> >> is not compatible with a philosophy of one aEUR~right' or even
one
> generally
> >> preferable style of modern performance based on a careful
sifting of
> his-
> >> torical evidence, if the sift eliminates evidence incom- patible
> with any
> >> single interpretative thesis. Modern ideas of aEUR~public' and
> aEUR~private' are
> >> not always helpful: traces of 17th- century public practice are
to
> be
> >> found in privately circulated manuscripts, while widely
available
> printed
> >> books facilitated solitary music- reading. To illuminate this
> repertory
> >> from scholarly angles we need not a normative musicology but a
more
> >> cheerfully disruptive one: we might then use its tools to
sharpen a
> new
> >> set of interpretive skills. As Robert Spencer said aEUR~I see
> nothing
> >> upsetting in that' "
> >>
> >> All the best
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> www.pantagruel.de
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 10, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Ron Andrico wrote:
> >>
> >>> We have posted our Saturday quotes on performing lute songs
with
> no
> >>> gimmicks:
> >>> [1][8][12]http://wp.me/p15OyV-lv
> >>> Ron & Donna
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> References
> >>>
> >>> 1. [9][13]http://wp.me/p15OyV-lv
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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