Hi Stephen,

Thanks for the list! Luther was born on Nov 5th 1483 (baptized one day
later, that's why his given name was Martin). So when he enrolled at
Mansfeld Latin school, he was six years old, no wunderkind. The story of his
95 theses hammered on the Wittenberg church doors on Oct 31st 1517 probably
is a legend. Mind you, the theses were written in Latin. 

As for beer, Luther had his regular pint of Torgau beer which he liked best.
It was part of his maintenance, though, and was delivered at his home in
Wittenberg. When his students and colleagues would gather for supper at his
table, for which occasion there certainly was light beer on the table, he
used to hold talks (Tischreden). At any rate, Luther would certainly not
visit taverns for beer (the more so after his marriage).

Perhaps, though, we are dealing with a peculiarity of the German language.
Tavern may mean at least two things in German. One is Gasthaus, which in
Luther's days was a place where you could eat and drink and possibly rent a
room for the night. The other is Kneipe, which was a bar or a pub, where
people went for a booze.

Wasn't it Mary Burwell's teacher who strictly forbade playing the lute in
taverns? French lutenists who were caned for attempting to do it in English
taverns? That's for Kneipe, I guess ...

Best,

Mathias



> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Stephen Stubbs [mailto:[email protected]]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. März 2012 22:38
> An: Mathias Rösel
> Betreff: Re: AW: [LUTE] Re: Nazi rules correction!
> 
> On 3/17/2012 4:22 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote:
> > Stephen,
> >
> > translation of sacred texts into vernacular languages may qualify as
> > secularisation in other religions, but regarding Luther, the opposite
> > may considered true. He didn't bring the Bible into the secular, he
> > brought the people to the Holy.
> >
> > To make this point more lute-related, you might compare music in
> > German lute tablature. The number of translations into French tab is
> > increasing, but that doesn't mean that Judenkünig's and Newsidler's
> > music is deprived of its original air. Instead, that beautiful music
> > is opened to masses of players who otherwise had no access.
> Well stated.  I try to be succinct and brief in my posts these days.
> 
> > Mathias
> >
> > PS: It's quite well attested that Luther played the lute, but as for
> > playing in taverns, please take into account that he had been a monk.
> >
> >
> 1489, At age 4 1/2 Luther enrolls in the Mansfield Latin school.
> 1498, studies at the Latin school in Eisenach.
> 1501, May, travels to Erfurt to begin university studies 1502, September,
> awarded the Bachelor of Arts from the University of Erfurt, ranked 13th of
57
> students, and not quite 19 years old.
> 1505, awarded Master of Arts from the University of Erfurt, 2nd of 17
students.
> Luther begins studying to be a lawyer (his father wanted him to be a
lawyer), but
> on July 17th, Luther suddenly enters the Augustinian monastery in Erfurt
to take
> a monk's vows.  (As you pointed
> out.)
> 1507, becomes a Roman Catholic priest and celebrates his first Mass in
May.  He
> returns to the University of Erfurt to study theology.
> 1508, goes to Wittenberg to serve as a temporary teacher in Elector
Frederick's
> struggling university.
> 1509, returns to Erfurt where he becomes both a university teacher and a
> student working on a Doctor of Theology.
> 1510, the trip to Holy Rome that starts Luther thinking very seriously
about the
> Roman Catholic Church.
> 1511, returns to Wittenberg as teacher, preacher, and student working on a
> Doctor of Theology.
> 1512, October, awarded the Doctor of Theology from the University of
> Wittenberg.  Dr. Martin Luther is now a professor of the Bible at
Wittenberg.
> 1515, made supervisor of 11 Augustinian monasteries, and becomes a
traveling
> man.
> 1517, October 31st, hammers his 95 theses to the Wittenberg church door,
> calling for a debate.
> 1521, January 3rd, the final bull from the Pope and Luther is officially
> excommunicated and declared a heretic.
> 1521, April 26th, Luther leaves the Diet of Worms and is kidnapped by
friends.
> This begins Luther's traveling under the disguise of Knight George (who
did carry
> a sword, although Luther never used it), and his secretion in the Wartburg
> fortress as Knight George.
> 1521, May 25th, Emperor Charles V signed the Edict of Worms, condemning
> Luther as an outlaw to be killed or captured on sight. No one was to
print, buy,
> sell, read, or own any of Luther's writings.
> 1522, Luther continues writing, and puts out his study, On Monastic Vows,
> where he reaffirms that only faith in God, not following strict rules
(like
> celibacy), saves one.  Luther keeps up with developments in the
Reformation.
> 1525, June 13th, Martin Luther (age 46) marries former nun Katharina von
Bora
> (age 26) and had 6 children.
> 1546, February 18th, Martin Luther dies in Eiselben.  His remains are laid
to rest
> in the Castle Church in Wittenberg on February 22nd, where his coffin
remains
> today.
> 
> So yes, he began his religious life as a monk.  But he didn't remain one.
Like all
> people, he changed over time.  Knight George was known to stay in taverns
> during his travels.  I don't know of any Lutheran pastor that considers
beer (in
> moderation) to be a bad thing.  :)
> 
> Best,
> Stephen.





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