Hi Ed, On your 8-course do you have the D on the 7th or 8th course?
Miles On 2012-05-02, at 2:05 PM, Edward Martin wrote: > Hi Sean, > > Actually, I do not have a 7-course lute at the moment, I use an > 8-course for renaissance lute, as for the reasons cited. i did have > a 7-course, which was converted to an 11-course, Frei. When I used > it as a 7-course lute, I essentially had it strung with a string > in-between the 2 tones... it was low tension for the D, high tension > with the F. Using gimped strings on that, it worked OK, but i really > like the 8 course, as one has access to both. > > English music seems to favor the D, where continental music seems to > favor the F. > > ed > > > > > > > At 12:52 PM 5/2/2012, Sean Smith wrote: > >> If you haven't yet ordered a lute, I would consider an 8 course, >> which >> in my opinion is more versatile.A It even allows you to cheat and >> play >> 10 course music... >> >> Very true, Bruno, I loved exploring the Vallet and Ballard books for >> years on my 8c, turning singers on to Airs de cours and knowing that >> nearly all the English was, at least, doable w/out retuning something. >> >> That said, I've seen some lovely 7c instruments and they sound better >> for resisting the extra course. Ed Martin's, for example, as well as >> Jacob Herringman's 7c Gerle. The latter is interesting in that it >> retains the earlier parabolic neck which, I think, would not support 8 >> courses. If that is your route you're well set up to go to the 6c. >> >> Ed, I believe you have a gut bass w/ a metal filament on the 7th >> course on that instrument. Could you weigh in on how it does re: >> Joshua's question? I'm curious myself. >> >> Dalza expected lutes to accept a one-step scordatura and in one >> 'suite' on the 5th course also. Could the extra half step really be >> too much? >> >> But truthfully, Joshua, a 7c is a fine place to start and I applaud >> your resolution. You'll work out the D/F situation one way or another. >> >> Sean >> >> >> >> >> >> A >> >> A >> >> Bruno >> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Braig, Eugene <[1][email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> It's beginning to sound like an 8-course might actually better suit >> your needs. A While short lived in period, they seem pretty >> ubiquitous today. >> Best, >> Eugene >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [2][email protected] >> [mailto:[3][email protected]] On Behalf Of Joshua Burkholder >> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:40 AM >> To: [4][email protected] >> Subject: [LUTE] Re-tuning the diapason of a 7c >> Dear lute-listers, >> A question from a beginner: >> First to introduce myself, my name is Joshua and I've been playing >> the >> lute for several months now; I have been on the list for a couple >> weeks >> and am really enjoying following your discussions. I have a rental >> 7-course and I am now in the process of taking the plunge and >> buying a >> lute of my own. After much reading, pondering and agonizing over the >> best number of courses to start with, I've come to the conclusion >> that >> a 7-course best suits my needs. So onto to my question: >> I know that some people re-tune the 7th course from D to F as needed, >> but on my rental lute this seems quite impossible. The diapason is >> stung to F and if I drop it down to D it becomes far too wobbly and >> flabby. From this I assume that if I were to restring it to D, which >> I'd prefer on the whole, it would likewise be impossible to raise >> it to >> F. Currently the lute is strung with Pyramid strings so the basses >> are >> metal wound. Is it only possible to change from D to F on the same >> string if one uses gut strings (Poulton remarks to this effect in her >> tutor that if it's strung to be tuned at D "it will only be >> possible to >> raise it to F if gut strings are used")? Otherwise I have to re- string? >> Or does someone use some other stringing solution, besides just >> keeping >> it D and fingering the third fret for F (or buying an 8-course >> lute...)? I've read enough about stringing lutes to understand that >> it >> will be a while before I understand anything about stringing lutes... >> Thank you for taking the time to help out a newcomer. >> Best wishes, >> Joshua >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> -- >> >> A >> >> Bruno Cognyl-Fournier >> >> A >> >> [6]www.estavel.org >> >> A >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. mailto:[email protected] >> 2. mailto:[email protected] >> 3. mailto:[email protected] >> 4. mailto:[email protected] >> 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> 6. http://www.estavel.org/ >> >> > > > > Edward Martin > 2817 East 2nd Street > Duluth, Minnesota 55812 > e-mail: [email protected] > voice: (218) 728-1202 > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name > http://www.myspace.com/edslute > http://magnatune.com/artists/edward_martin > > >
