Ideally what we need is for ppl to upload their spacings. I will
upload one from about 20 years ago which is slightly wider than what I
have now--I will call it "fat and happy"
d
--- On Thu, 11/15/12, Edward Mast <nedma...@aol.com> wrote:
From: Edward Mast <nedma...@aol.com>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: 8-ch lute strings spacing
To: "Gregory Brown" <delphinconsult...@earthlink.net>
Cc: "'Luca Manassero'" <l...@manassero.net>, "'lute'"
<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 5:18 AM
No - width of the neck will be determined by the string spacing. By
thickness, I mean the distance from the surface of the fingerboard to
the back of the neck.
Ned
On Nov 14, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Gregory Brown wrote:
> By "thickness", do you mean the width of the neck?
>
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> Of Edward Mast
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:14 PM
> To: Luca Manassero
> Cc: lute
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: 8-ch lute strings spacing
>
> String spacing is indeed most important. But I rarely (never?) see
> mentioned thickness of the neck. For a couple of years I played an 8
course
> lute with a rather thin neck, which I assumed to be normal. Then I
got an 8
> course with a thicker neck and found (I do have large hands) that
barred
> chords that had been difficult on the thinner neck were considerably
easier
> on the thicker neck. I quickly got rid of the thinner neck
instrument.
> Perhaps something else to consider when buying a lute . . .
> Ned
> On Nov 14, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Luca Manassero wrote:
>
>> Dear list,
>> five years ago at the Neuburg (Bavaria) Summer Academy I
happened
>> to try an 8 course lute built for a friend of mine by Martin
Shepherd:
>> the strings spacing fitted so perfectly that later on I e-mailed
Martin
>> to have "his" strings spacing. I still use it on all my Renaissance
>> instruments.
>> In any case all lutemakers I approached over the last seven years
>> ALWAYS asked me "my" strings spacing requirements: they NEVER
simply
>> used their without asking first.
>> Last but not least, I have played a few "exact copies" of museum
>> instruments: in all cases an extremely narrow strings spacing made
them
>> almost unplayable (to me). Having big hands I don't see why I
should
>> play on a very narrow, mandolin-like neck. What if the original
>> instrument (aka Gerle...) was originally built for a 10 years old
>> little girl?
>> Luca
>> David Tayler on 14/11/12 18.29 wrote:
>>
>> It depends on the player, the technique and the size of the hands,
the
>> width of the fingers, etc., but in the critical spacing of the
first
>> three courses I would not go below 5mm center to enter between
pairs
>> and below 11.5 between the chanterelle and the next string over, if
the
>> top string is single. There is a cross point at the plucking point
that
>> is the real figure, that is, the width where the string plucked. As
for
>> the other courses, it also depends on the string material. For an
early
>> style lute, you can also use a "close parallel" spacing, but unless
the
>> maker knows how to do it, I would not try it.
>> The reach of the hand is important in an eight course instrument,
but
>> that depends on the hand. So at eight courses, you may have to
compress
>> the spacing slightly if reach is an issue. If they live in
California,
>> I can take a look, but otherwise you may have to rely on a generic
>> pattern, or borrow a few instruments to see if they fit. It's like
>> buying shoes. You can ask what shoe size you need, but you still
have
>> to wear them. Ninety percent of lutes have the wrong spacing, so it
is
>> worth getting it right when it is built.
>> dt
>> --- On Sun, 11/4/12, Jerzy Zak [1]<[3]jurek...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Jerzy Zak [2]<[4]jurek...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [LUTE] 8-ch lute strings spacing
>> To: "lute mailing list list" [3]<[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>> Date: Sunday, November 4, 2012, 5:06 PM
>>
>> Dear Lutelist,
>> A student of mine is expacting a new 8-ch lute. The maker has
little
>> experience with an instrument of such number of courses. So we all
need
>> some advice from you. We need a typical spacing on both sides of
>> strings, aEUR|if there is such "typical" spacing, of course.
Anyway, at
>> least a distance between the outer strings would be of help, if not
all
>> measurements.
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Jerzy Z
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