Dear Monica,

   You write 'There('s) no hard evidence that the 4-course guitar was
   played in Italy'  and, of course, you're quite right.

   But it was played in Spain, then a major influence in all Hapsburg
   lands and in some Italian states as well as Naples. So I don't see it
   being played in the leading maritime centre of Venice as particularly
   far-fetched. And I'm referring to the figure of eight shaped instrument
   - I think we're in danger of going a bit too far down the invisible
   path of supposing a mandora shaped guitar was the default.

   regards

   Martyn

   --- On Mon, 21/1/13, Monica Hall <[email protected]> wrote:

     From: Monica Hall <[email protected]>
     Subject: [LUTE] Re: Calata de StrAmbotto
     To: "Sean Smith" <[email protected]>
     Cc: "Lutelist" <[email protected]>
     Date: Monday, 21 January, 2013, 10:38

   I am afraid the pieces in Barberiis are probably not for the 4-course
   guitar
   but - as Stuart has kindly pointed out with the appropriate reference -
   for
   a small 4-course lute or mandora.
   Renato Meucci, Da 'chitarra italiana' a 'chitarrone': una nuova
   interpretazione; in Enrico Radesca da Foggia e il suo tempo Atti del
   Convegno di studi, Foggia 7-8 Aprile 2000, pp. 30 - 57.
   There is a case to be made that this music by Bareriis isn't for
   figure-of-eight 'normal'-if-tiny 'Spanish guitar but for a small
   gittern/mandore-type instrument.
   There no hard evidence that the 4-course guitar was played in Italy.
   Monica
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Sean Smith" <[1][email protected]>
   To: "lute" <[2][email protected]>
   Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:51 PM
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Calata de StrAmbotto
   >
   > Thanks for the reminder, Arthur. I knew about these but had forgotten
   them
   > (too). It is more support that the little guitar was being played and
   even
   > written for.
   >
   > Sean
   >
   >
   > On Jan 20, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Arthur Ness wrote:
   >
   > The link is at the very bttom.
   > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Ness"
   <[3][email protected]>
   > To: "Monica Hall" <[4][email protected]>; "Sean Smith"
   > <[5][email protected]>
   > Cc: "Lutelist" <[6][email protected]>
   > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:21 PM
   > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Calata de StrAmbotto
   >
   >
   >>  Monica surely has simply forgotten about these Italian guitar
   pieces.
   >>  Just four pieces in a century is virtually the same as saying there
   are
   >>  no pieces.<g>:
   >>  See [1][7]http://purl.org/rism/BI/1549/39  Sigs, Gg24v-Hh1v (last
   two
   >>  pages)<<<snip>>>
   >> References
   >>  1. [8]http://purl.org/rism/BI/1549/39
   >>  2. mailto:[9][email protected]
   >>  3. mailto:[10][email protected]
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   >>  6. mailto:[13][email protected]
   >>  7. mailto:[14][email protected]
   >>  8. mailto:[15][email protected]
   >>  9. [16]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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