Another intelligent post from a thinking person

Allan

www.guitarandlute.com

> Martin,
> 
>    Well said. Bream worked largely by intuition based upon his 20th
>    century training. While HIP-sters consult a basic foundation of
>    empirical research, so much of what is done stylistically is pure
>    conjecture. There's a large element of the "Emperor's New Clothes."
>    On many subjects, the sources are either silent, obscure, or so
>    heavily filtered through our modern subconscious system of
>    preconceptions that we should rightfully admit that there is no
>    present answer to many important performance practice issues. But
>    "I'm not sure" never goes over well with colleagues, so something
>    is invented. Then we all agree to go on pretending that it works so
>    well that it must really be what was done. Eventually it becomes
>    dogma and the expected way early music should sound according to
>    listeners in late 2013. But the "Hoppy and ideological
>    alumni"-style is only one approach. Bream is another. Both are
>    music.
> 
> Chris
> 
> P.S. For several years I've been playing very close to the bridge.
> Having lived with it for a while, I've been surprised to find that the
> effect of this position is actually more drastic in the regions of
> phrasing and articulation than tone color. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
> Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
> www.christopherwilke.com
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 12/7/13, Martin Shepherd <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>  Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
>  To: [email protected]
>  Date: Saturday, December 7, 2013, 5:42 AM
> 
>  Hi All,
> 
>  I am a bit dismayed by a modern orthodoxy about lutes and
>  lute music 
>  which is so dismissive of things which stand outside that
>  orthodoxy.  
>  Whether or not you like Bream's lutes or his playing, he was
>  the first 
>  to show that it *could* be done.
> 
>  But the main thing which troubles me is that the basis of
>  this current 
>  orthodoxy is so shaky.  Modern lutemakers base their
>  instruments on just 
>  a few museum specimens which are not necessarily
>  representative of the 
>  multiplicity of lutes of the past, and while we now make
>  lutes which are 
>  much closer to historical instruments than those of 20 or 30
>  years ago, 
>  we still don't understand how strings were made in the past
>  and still 
>  can't reproduce them.
> 
>  Despite much research, modern players have to guess at the
>  nature of 
>  musical phrasing and mostly ignore the very important
>  dimension of 
>  ornamentation, either playing no ornaments at all or taking
>  an "anything 
>  goes" approach.  We also mostly ignore the fact that
>  17th and 18th 
>  century lute players played very close to the bridge with
>  their fingers 
>  plucking almost at right angles to the strings.  This
>  has far-reaching 
>  implications - playing more or less thumb-inside and over
>  the rose, 
>  modern players need quite high string tensions, probably
>  much higher 
>  than were used in the past.
> 
>  We may like what the best players do now, but it is foolish
>  to think 
>  that it is historically plausible, let alone "correct".
> 
>  Martin
> 
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