Merci, Jean-Marie!
We find the dépouillement also here:
http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1&type=ms&ms=F-Pn6211&lang=deu&showmss=1
I've never seen a composer named Lamare Le Gras in an other ms.
There is one piece ascribed to Mesangeau (some are ascribed in other
sources to Mesangeau.)
One of the hands writes "ton enrhumé" as "ton arumay" which looks
somehow English.
Crypto fans: what does "Courante A.d.m.L.b.p.m.g." mean?
On 46v I would read "Courante diminution" instead of "diminutivy".
Happy Easter!
B
On 21.04.2014 13:30, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
Well yes, actually. There is a complete listing of the pieces in the manuscript and the
attributionw whenever possible in "Sources Manuscrites en Tablature, luth et
théorbe, Catalogue descriptif" Editions V. Koerner : Baden Baden et Bouxwiller, 1991.
Ms 6211 is presented on pages 198 - 141 by Monique Rollin.
The authors are the two Gaultiers, Dubut, Dupré, Emond, Lamrare Le Gras,
Vincent, Bouvier and anonymous...
There are two Tombeaux de Mésangeau. 1 on f° 8v - 9 (called Allemande du vieux
gautier, D minor tuning) and the other one ob f° 31v - 32 , flat tuning)
Best,
Jean-Marie
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Begin forwarded message:
From: Mathias Rösel <[email protected]>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
Date: April 21, 2014 at 6:11:14 AM EDT
To: "Lute List" <[email protected]>
Not only did Mesangeau use this tuning a lot. This piece has many
stylistic traits
characteristic of him.
I suggest he could well have been the composer. Otherwise someone else has
deliberately cited from his work. Anyway Tombeau de Mesangeau might mean
Tombeau by Mesangeau as well as Tombeau for Mesangeau. If my suggestion is
right, this tombeau would predate the one composed by Ennemond Gaultier.
Lex
Would be funny, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, I was thinking that
tombeaux in the 17th century were composed for real deceased persons, and
not just like that as a stylistic exercise like in the 20th/21st centuries.
Unless it be clear for whom this tombeau was penned other than for late
Mesangeau, I'd assume it was written at the occasion of Mesangeau's obituary
by someone else.
Mathias
So who wrote the other pieces in VM7 6211 ? Has someone published an analysis?
Wayne
according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found:
F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image
That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be
BY Mezangeau.
That is the flat tuning, (like Lester) which Mesangeau did use a lot.
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