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What pitch were you tuning the Oud at? Turkish Ouds are not tuned at the same pitch as North African Ouds.. they are tuned higher.. -- Bruno Cognyl-Fournier [image: Images intégrées 1] www.estavel.org 2014-04-24 6:13 GMT-04:00 Matthew Daillie <[email protected]>: > Dear Edward, > > I ordered some La Bella strings a few years back and their calculations > were way off. I was able to do my own for the nylon strings by measuring > the diameter but it was really hit and miss for the copper-wound strings as > I didn't have any basis for calculation. The strings they suggested on > their website were totally inappropriate (far too slack). I did contact > them about this issue but they never sorted anything out. Shame, because > their strings are well made and reasonably priced. > > Best > > Matthew > > > On 24 avr. 2014, at 11:12, "Edward C. Yong" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi lutelisters! > > > > So a student of mine picked up a set of La Bella lute strings w octaves > and we strung up her Turkish-made 8-course lute (59cm string length) with > them. > > > > Then I noticed something very odd - the higher octaves were far too > loose at the correct pitch as they were flabby and flopped about. Checking > the diameters, I realised were basically the appropriate diameters for > tuning at TWO octaves above the fundamental. For example, the nylon octave > D on the 8th course was the same diameter as the nylon D on the 2nd course. > > > > Next, the tension on the bass courses seems far too low - they also flop > about and buzz annoyingly. > > > > This is quite perplexing - the tensions listed in the pdf on the La > Bella website already seem quite low, but when strung up, the strings feel > far looser than what is listed. Also, when I use Arto Wikla's string > calculator and feed in the density + string length + diameter, the > resulting tensions is significantly lower than what La Bella indicates. > > > > I haven't used La Bella in nearly two decades. Can anyone advise if I'm > imagining things? > > > > Edward Chrysogonus Yong > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > --047d7bd6c5e8d0d9b304f7c7f168 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir="ltr">What pitch were you tuning the Oud at?  Turkish Ouds are not tuned at the same pitch as North African Ouds..  they are tuned higher..   <div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br> <div> </div> <div>Bruno Cognyl-Fournier</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div><span></span><span></span><img alt="Images intégrées 1" src="cid:ii_1447402dfdcf9f26" width="96" height="96"> </div> <div><a href="http://www.estavel.org/" target="_blank">www.estavel.org</a></div> <div> </div> <br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-04-24 6:13 GMT-04:00 Matthew Daillie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>></span>:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Edward,<br> <br> I ordered some La Bella strings a few years back and their calculations were way off. I was able to do my own for the nylon strings by measuring the diameter but it was really hit and miss for the copper-wound strings as I didn't have any basis for calculation. The strings they suggested on their website were totally inappropriate (far too slack). I did contact them about this issue but they never sorted anything out. Shame, because their strings are well made and reasonably priced.<br> <br> Best<br> <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br> Matthew<br> </font></span><div class="im HOEnZb"><br> <br> On 24 avr. 2014, at 11:12, "Edward C. Yong" <<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > Hi lutelisters!<br> ><br> > So a student of mine picked up a set of La Bella lute strings w octaves and we strung up her Turkish-made 8-course lute (59cm string length) with them.<br> ><br> > Then I noticed something very odd - the higher octaves were far too loose at the correct pitch as they were flabby and flopped about. Checking the diameters, I realised were basically the appropriate diameters for tuning at TWO octaves above the fundamental. For example, the nylon octave D on the 8th course was the same diameter as the nylon D on the 2nd course.<br> ><br> > Next, the tension on the bass courses seems far too low - they also flop about and buzz annoyingly.<br> ><br> > This is quite perplexing - the tensions listed in the pdf on the La Bella website already seem quite low, but when strung up, the strings feel far looser than what is listed. Also, when I use Arto Wikla's string calculator and feed in the density + string length + diameter, the resulting tensions is significantly lower than what La Bella indicates.<br> ><br> > I haven't used La Bella in nearly two decades. Can anyone advise if I'm imagining things?<br> ><br> </div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> Edward Chrysogonus Yong<br> > <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > To get on or off this list see list information at<br> > <a href="http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html</a><br> <br> <br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> --047d7bd6c5e8d0d9b304f7c7f168-- --
