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What pitch were you tuning the Oud at?  Turkish Ouds are not tuned at the
same pitch as North African Ouds..   they are tuned higher..



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2014-04-24 6:13 GMT-04:00 Matthew Daillie <[email protected]>:

> Dear Edward,
>
> I ordered some La Bella strings a few years back and their calculations
> were way off. I was able to do my own for the nylon strings by measuring
> the diameter but it was really hit and miss for the copper-wound strings as
> I didn't have any basis for calculation. The strings they suggested on
> their website were totally inappropriate (far too slack). I did contact
> them about this issue but they never sorted anything out. Shame, because
> their strings are well made and reasonably priced.
>
> Best
>
> Matthew
>
>
> On 24 avr. 2014, at 11:12, "Edward C. Yong" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi lutelisters!
> >
> > So a student of mine picked up a set of La Bella lute strings w octaves
> and we strung up her Turkish-made 8-course lute (59cm string length) with
> them.
> >
> > Then I noticed something very odd - the higher octaves were far too
> loose at the correct pitch as they were flabby and flopped about. Checking
> the diameters, I realised were basically the appropriate diameters for
> tuning at TWO octaves above the fundamental. For example, the nylon octave
> D on the 8th course was the same diameter as the nylon D on the 2nd course.
> >
> > Next, the tension on the bass courses seems far too low - they also flop
> about and buzz annoyingly.
> >
> > This is quite perplexing - the tensions listed in the pdf on the La
> Bella website already seem quite low, but when strung up, the strings feel
> far looser than what is listed. Also, when I use Arto Wikla's string
> calculator and feed in the density + string length + diameter, the
> resulting tensions is significantly lower than what La Bella indicates.
> >
> > I haven't used La Bella in nearly two decades. Can anyone advise if I'm
> imagining things?
> >
> > Edward Chrysogonus Yong
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
> > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
>
>

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<div dir="ltr">What pitch were you tuning the Oud at?  Turkish Ouds are not 
tuned at the same pitch as North African Ouds..   they are tuned higher..    
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<div>Bruno Cognyl-Fournier</div>
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class="gmail_quote">2014-04-24 6:13 GMT-04:00 Matthew Daillie <span 
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; 
target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc 
solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Edward,<br>
<br>
I ordered some La Bella strings a few years back and their calculations were 
way off. I was able to do my own for the nylon strings by measuring the 
diameter but it was really hit and miss for the copper-wound strings as I 
didn&#39;t have any basis for calculation. The strings they suggested on their 
website were totally inappropriate (far too slack). I did contact them about 
this issue but they never sorted anything out. Shame, because their strings are 
well made and reasonably priced.<br>

<br>
Best<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Matthew<br>
</font></span><div class="im HOEnZb"><br>
<br>
On 24 avr. 2014, at 11:12, &quot;Edward C. Yong&quot; &lt;<a 
href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Hi lutelisters!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So a student of mine picked up a set of La Bella lute strings w octaves 
and we strung up her Turkish-made 8-course lute (59cm string length) with 
them.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Then I noticed something very odd - the higher octaves were far too loose 
at the correct pitch as they were flabby and flopped about. Checking the 
diameters, I realised were basically the appropriate diameters for tuning at 
TWO octaves above the fundamental. For example, the nylon octave D on the 8th 
course was the same diameter as the nylon D on the 2nd course.<br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; Next, the tension on the bass courses seems far too low - they also flop 
about and buzz annoyingly.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This is quite perplexing - the tensions listed in the pdf on the La Bella 
website already seem quite low, but when strung up, the strings feel far looser 
than what is listed. Also, when I use Arto Wikla&#39;s string calculator and 
feed in the density + string length + diameter, the resulting tensions is 
significantly lower than what La Bella indicates.<br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; I haven&#39;t used La Bella in nearly two decades. Can anyone advise if 
I&#39;m imagining things?<br>
&gt;<br>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">&gt; Edward Chrysogonus Yong<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; To get on or off this list see list information at<br>
&gt; <a href="http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html"; 
target="_blank">http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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