Dear Stewart, Hector, Dick, and Nancy,
thank you very much for your kind replies. I had the transcriptions by
Lewis Jones (1983) already, but now that I have also joined the LSA and
received some past issues of the LSA Quarterly, I found much useful
information about the basse danses in the articles by Dick Hoban (2011)
and Crawford Young (2013).
I am very glad that some dance music has been notated quite early while
it still carried traces from the actual dance floor (before completely
evolving into "listening only" tunes). This becomes very clear from
Dick Hoban's article.
For somebody like me who attempts to understand early dance both from
the musical and the choreographical perspective, articles like these
are very valuable. Thank you!
Best wishes from a hot southern Sweden
Josef
--
Dick Hoban (2011): Masters of Polyphony: Secrets of the Bassadanza
Tenor La Spagna. LSA Quarterly XLVI, No.4 pp.7-25.
Crawford Young (2013): The King of Spain "una bassadanza troppo forte".
LSA Quarterly XLVIII, No.1&2, pp.40-61.
2014-07-18 3:03 GMT+02:00 Dick Hoban <[1]rpho...@gmail.com>:
Josef
In a recent issue of the LSA Quarterly, Volume XLVIII No.1 & 2, Spring
and Summer 2013, you can find an interesting article by Crawford Young
that examines the "bassadanza" in Pesaro Ms. and compares it with its
concordant dance in the Thibault Ms. Facsimiles of the original
tablature for both dances are included, as well as a chart showing the
use of the La Spagna tenor in each dance. He concludes with a
thoroughly enjoyable rendering of the Pesaro bassadanza in modern
French tablature.This article is a follow on to his close examination
of both of these early manuscript bassadanza
settings as part of the information included in the publication of the
entire facsimile of the Persaro manuscript, Fruhe Lautentablaturen im
Faksimile published by Amadeus in 2003.
Best, Dick
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Stewart McCoy <[2]lu...@tiscali.co.uk>
wrote:
Dear Josef,
Just in case you were unaware, there are two articles on the
Thibault manuscript by Lewis Jones in _The Lute_, 1982 (part 2) and
1983 (part 1). In the 1982 article he gives transcriptions of eight
pieces from the manuscript, including the Calata on fol. 53r, but
not the basse danses.
Best wishes,
Stewart McCoy.
-----Original Message----- From: Josef Berger
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 4:59 PM
To: Hector Sequera ; [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Thibault MS
A Hi Hector,
A thank you for the information. I hope that you'll be able to publish
A some of your research in scholarly journals, to make it more
A internationally accessible.
A I was mainly curious what you have written about the dances in the
A Thibault MS, and if there are any new concordances than those
mentioned
A in Thibault 1958.
A I have the article by G.Thibault (Un manuscrit italien pour luth des
A premiA"res annA(c)es du XVIe siA"cle, pp. 43-76 in: J. Jaquot (ed.):
Le
A luth et sa musique, Paris 1958) which contains transcriptions of
pavana
A regia, saltarello, piva, pavana (fol.13r to 14r), a pavana (fol.25r)
A and a mysterious "calata" (fol.53). But Thibault (1958) did not
include
A the basse danses of the manuscript (Basadanza, fol.15r and Spagna,
A fol.19v), so I was as hoping to find those somewhere.I found Sarge
A Gerbode's transcription of the Spagna in Thibault at
A [1][4]http://gerbode.net/composers/Anon/VMD/pdf/Vmd27_spagna.pdf ,
but not
A the Basadanza (which might be another version of the popular Spagna
A theme?)
A Best wishes
A Josef Berger
A 2014-07-11 16:11 GMT+02:00 Hector Sequera
<[2][5]hectorl...@mac.com>:
A A Dear Josef,
A A My thesis is under contract by UMI so I cannot release it (you
need
A A to buy it via ProQuest in the USA). If you have any specific
A A questions let me know. I am back at doing research on this topic
and
A A hope to publish something next year.
A A All best wishes,
A A Hector
A A On 11 Jul 2014, at 14:57, Josef Berger
<[3][6]harpolek...@gmail.com>
A A wrote:
A A > A A Dear collective wisdom,
A A > A A does somebody of you have access to the thesis of Hector
A A Sequera about
A A > A A the Thibault manuscript? Its PDF seems to be available only
at
A A the
A A > A A University of North Texas...
A A > A
A [1][4][7]http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4652/
A A > A A HA(c)ctor J Sequera (2004): Selected Lute Music from Paris,
A A RA(c)s.
A A > A A Vmd. Ms. 27 from the BibliothA"que Nationale:
Reconstruction,
A A Edition,
A A > A A and Commentary.
A A > A A Best wishes from southern Sweden (which at this very moment
A A feels
A A > A A rather than some part of Africa)
A A > A A Josef Berger
A A >
A A > A A --
A A >
A A > References
A A >
A A > A A 1.
[5][8]http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4652/
A A >
A A >
A A > To get on or off this list see list information at
A A > [6][9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
A --
References
A 1. [10]http://gerbode.net/composers/Anon/VMD/pdf/Vmd27_spagna.pdf
A 2. mailto:[11]hectorl...@mac.com
A 3. mailto:[12]harpolek...@gmail.com
A 4. [13]http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4652/
A 5. [14]http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4652/
A 6. [15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
--
References
1. mailto:rpho...@gmail.com
2. mailto:lu...@tiscali.co.uk
3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
4. http://gerbode.net/composers/Anon/VMD/pdf/Vmd27_spagna.pdf
5. mailto:hectorl...@mac.com
6. mailto:harpolek...@gmail.com
7. http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4652/
8. http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4652/
9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
10. http://gerbode.net/composers/Anon/VMD/pdf/Vmd27_spagna.pdf
11. mailto:hectorl...@mac.com
12. mailto:harpolek...@gmail.com
13. http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4652/
14. http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4652/
15. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
