Antonio-

Juan Bermudo, "Declaracion de Instrumentos Musicales..." 1555, f.95'-96. Translation by John Milton Ward, "The Vihuela da Mano and its Music", 1953; p52. "On the seven-course vihuela the "temple comun" was 4-4-3-4-4-4".

According to this set-up, the major 3rd interval was between the 4 & 5 courses, not 3 & 4 as on the 7 (or any other) course lute. Supposedly to facilitate intabulation of higher pitched voices from the vocal literature. In other words, a "G" vihuela was now a tiny "D" vihuela with the extra 7th course being a high treble string, i.e., 1st course "g". But the instrument was mentally conceived of as "G" tenor with a high "c" string. No music composed or arranged for such a configuration has survived, so not having the time or talent to explore this modality myself, I use mine as an ordinary "7 course lute w/low D".

Bermudo also recommended an impossible theoretical tuning in 4ths & 5ths for the 7 course instrument that would provide a range to cover everything- but of course, the limitations of the strings & response range of the instrument kept this idea in the theoretical realm only.

A number of players were remembered as great players of the 7 course vihuela, including Luis de Guzman (apparently the composer of a lost book of vihuela music. Damn!), Pedro de Madrid, the great composer Francisco Guerrero, and a few others.

Dr. Ward's book is a must read, must own book for any serious vihuela player.

Dan

On 10/16/2014 7:46 AM, Antonio Corona wrote:
    "the actual 7 course historical tuning specified for the "Vihuela
    Grande"
    ????????
    Best wishes to all
    Antonio
    On Thursday, 16 October 2014, 8:23, Martin Shepherd
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    The version in the Folger MS ("the battle gallyard") is written for 7c
    lute with the 7th at D.
    Same applies to the Dd.5.78 version of Mr John Langton's Pavan.
    M
    On 16/10/2014 04:13, Dan Winheld wrote:
    > Ed-
    >
    > It's a piece a cake. Every time he calls for the low "F", it's in low
    > position & chord voicing that makes it very, very easy to finger on
    > the 7th course at the 3rd fret. Dowland does not call for this note
    in
    > many places where he could; as if the piece was originally conceived
    > for a 7 course, low "D" instrument first.
    >
    > Far more telling is Langton's Pavin (also in the "Varietie") - a
    > veritable showcase piece for the 8 course lute. Also no prob. on a 7
    > course w/low D.
    >
    > Yeah, I remember your damn lute. I'm still counting pegs in my sleep.
    > Almost as much fun was bringing my 7 string guitar to Mimmi Fox's
    jazz
    > guitar class. She kept looking at the guitar, looking at my hands,
    and
    > shaking her head in confusement.
    >
    > Dan
    >
    > On 10/15/2014 5:16 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote:
    >> What about the King of Denmark's Galliard in Robert Dowland's
    >> Variety. IIRC, you pretty much need the open F and D if you want to
    >> pull it off well. I would tune 7 to low D and play the Fs up an
    >> octave probably. But I'm on board with you. I had my 8 course
    >> converted to a 7 course long ago. I love to watch people's faces
    when
    >> they count the strings and then count the pegs. As I've always said,
    >> a seven course is only 7/8 as difficult as eight course.
    >>
    >> On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:36 AM, Dan Winheld <[1][email protected]>
    wrote:
    >>
    >>> The answer is- Nothing! It can all be done with 7 courses- but
    since
    >>> my low D 7th course would generate far too much tension cranked up
    >>> to "F",  I have to conclude that one (well, me anyway...) needs to
    >>> have either two 7 course instruments or... ONE eight-course!
    >> Ed Durbrow
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